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Re: Heavy Calibers [Re: rrretiree7] #5328080 01/20/20 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by rrretiree7
I have the opportunity to buy one gun, .357, .44 Magnum or .45 Long colt. Please rate them in stopping power and recoil management. Thanks, guys


You need to do a bit more research. I suspect you have never shot a 44 Magnum. Are you going to conceal carry? Are you planning to shoot a 44 magnum in your house or apartment? Have you thought about wielding a 357 or 44 in a close in hand to hand confrontation in a dark bedroom? Are you going to holster carry?
Are you going to practice a lot?

Re: Heavy Calibers [Re: rrretiree7] #5328087 01/20/20 05:40 PM
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Go to a gun range that rents guns and fire them all. Recoil tolerance is really individual dependant, myself and several guys from work all went to the DFW range and rented a pile of guns. One guy got so trigger shy on the .45 that he couldn't stop shaking while I personally had no issue with the .357 or .44 mags shrug My favourite was, and continues to be the .357 in reasonably long barrelled revolver, but everybody's preference is different which is why it only makes sense to give them all a whirl and figure out what works for you.


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Re: Heavy Calibers [Re: rrretiree7] #5329318 01/22/20 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by rrretiree7
I have the opportunity to buy one gun, .357, .44 Magnum or .45 Long colt. Please rate them in stopping power and recoil management. Thanks, guys


I would need to know more to give you a good recommendation on caliber.

Stopping power? Well, the .357 Mag has the best statistics, but that's because it was a common police caliber for many years. No cops have carried the .45 Colt in a hundred years or so, and so few cops carried the .44 Magnum that statistics on that round are really meaningless.

For pure power? .44 Mag, hands down, has the most power. .45 Colt can be loaded up to similar power, if the gun can handle it.

But I don't know in what gun you're going to use this, or your intended purpose. Those have huge implications and bearing on a caliber recommendation.

So, in the absence of a need to shot cowboy action, or to shoot bears, or really heavily clothed, large individuals, I recommend:

.357 magnum

Here's why: 1. of the 3, it's the easiest to manage in recoil. 2. It has a great track record in self-defense/LE real-world experience. 3. It is the cheapest and most available caliber and 4. You can load up a .357 with .38 Special for range day, which allows you to shoot at even lower cost, with lower recoil.


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Re: Heavy Calibers [Re: rrretiree7] #5329789 01/22/20 06:52 PM
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Thanks, guys for all your help. I like to hear guys advocating a .357, with the best all around performance. I sold a
Ruger Security 6 and now I am looking for the SP 101. This gun will be used for Self Defense

Re: Heavy Calibers [Re: rrretiree7] #5330050 01/23/20 07:11 AM
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SP101 is a nice gun. I forget exactly what I did, but I know I swapped in some Wolf springs and that did help the trigger. Not quite LCR good but close enough. I think I only changed the main spring, and IIRC the package had 4 different springs I could use--I went just one down from stock so as to avoid any light strike fears. It's still a long and heavy trigger, no fears of the gun just going off on it's own here.

They did sell some in DAO which should slightly improve the trigger, and the lack of a spur should help in draw (although I don't know what holster you want to use and the lack of a hammer spur might limit holster kind).

I've only ever shot magnums once or twice out of my 3" LCR and that was enough for me. I'm sure recoil would have gotten me before long, but the muzzle blast did me in, along with the noise. No way I'd use them. Tried some +P 125grn 38spl's the other day and that was unpleasant too, despite foam ear plugs and shooting outdoors my ears would ring after each shot. Just tossing that out there.

IMO, if you can get a chance, try the LCR, it should be easier to carry. I had the 38spl version but traded into the 357 version--the extra weight helps with recoil, and I find 38 standard loads not that bad in the 357 mag version. The LCR will have more recoil than the SP101 but will carry better, so like everything else in life, it's a tradeoff. Now if you aren't going to do carry then I'd go up in size to really mitigate recoil, but I'm guessing you got rid of the Security Six for a reason, and that was probably so as to get a smaller & easier to carry gun, no?


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Re: Heavy Calibers [Re: rrretiree7] #5330258 01/23/20 11:33 AM
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I have a Taurus Tracker (?) .44 Mag in the 2 inch barrel ( snubby ) version, and the recoil is formidable. Light that thing off in an indoor range and you can feel the pressure waves bouncing off the walls. I'm sure it's stopping power at short range is considerable. The muzzle blast might be lethal. Even on my end of the barrel, it makes me nervous. I don't think they offer the snubby any more. Probably a good decision.

I'm not sure .44 Mag in any barrel length and apartments are a good combination. You can shoot .44 Special from it, and AFAIK from any .44 Mag gun, and it is a nice gun with that load.

I sometimes carry the .38 special only version of the LCR. I find it unpleasant to shoot even with .38 special.


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Re: Heavy Calibers [Re: rrretiree7] #5330887 01/24/20 08:27 AM
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the 357 has always been my favorite hand gun as mentioned above i would practice with a lot of 38 spl and then finish with a dozen 357 for recoil practice with those.


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Re: Heavy Calibers [Re: rrretiree7] #5330888 01/24/20 08:27 AM
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I'm assuming with the OP living in NYC, concealed carry is not really a consideration.

With that in mind, to me there's no compelling reason to buy a 5 shot, small frame revolver. The recoil is worse(although an SP101 isn't as bad as a J frame) and you lose one shot. I'd tend toward a "service" sized gun with 6+ shots and a 4" or so barrel. The 4"-to me-is a nice combination of maneuverability and accuracy(although I like a 5" even better). Among Rugers, the GP-100 or the older Service/Security line would be at the top of my list. For S&Ws, I'd like a 19 or its stainless equivalent, or possibly a 586/686 or even an N frame(27/28).


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