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Anti seize vs silicone paste #5330589 01/23/20 06:57 PM
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Front brakes bound up and worn almost through the backing plate this week before I could tear them down. Looks like the inner pads were getting stuck on their ears. Last time I used motor craft silicone under the metal tabs which the pad ears ride on. I guess i can’t complain after 5 years but still maybe there is a better option. I have 3M silicone compound, anti seize and jet lube 50% moly paste on hand. Any thoughts on what will prevent wash out and corrosion the longest on a year round salt belt driver?


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Moly paste, although I cannot comment on washout. I'm pretty sure moly paste is better than anti sieze on pad ears, according to my research. I just learned that AS has abrasives in it so it's not a good idea to use for things other than threads. AS has amazing washout resistance but moly paste might be up there, too.


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Re: Anti seize vs silicone paste [Re: buck91] #5330613 01/23/20 07:16 PM
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you want a paste on the pad ears, silicone on the caliper pins.

I use pastelub. Its 40%+ solids

https://goodson.com/products/bpl-2400-pastelub-brake-lubricant

plenty of other good stuff if you dont want the lifetime supply tub (lol)


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Re: Anti seize vs silicone paste [Re: buck91] #5330626 01/23/20 07:37 PM
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5 years seems like a short time, even if in the salt belt.

I’d think silicone would be good. The thing is, if it heats up and runs off, then there’s nothing. Guess that’s where high content moly paste becomes a good idea.

Seems to me it’s inconsistent though what solution is best where.

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I think the real solution is to disassemble, clean and relube annually.


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Re: Anti seize vs silicone paste [Re: JHZR2] #5330629 01/23/20 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by JHZR2
5 years seems like a short time, even if in the salt belt.

I’d think silicone would be good. The thing is, if it heats up and runs off, then there’s nothing. Guess that’s where high content moly paste becomes a good idea.

Seems to me it’s inconsistent though what solution is best where.


The silicon never lasts on the pads. Eventually dries up/washes off etc.

I have never went more than 3-4 years so 5 years without any brake attention seems an eternity to me in the salt belt.

When I was using silicone it was every 1-2 years.


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Re: Anti seize vs silicone paste [Re: buck91] #5330643 01/23/20 07:55 PM
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Well I’m not talking about the pad ears themselves. My F150 have metal clips that go in between the brackets and the pad ears. Under the clips between them and the bracket is a breeding ground for corrosion- just a little is enough to put pressure on the pads and jam them up. I usually wire wheel during pad swaps but sometimes this style needs to get hit with a little filing also.


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Originally Posted by buck91
Well I’m not talking about the pad ears themselves. My F150 have metal clips that go in between the brackets and the pad ears. Under the clips between them and the bracket is a breeding ground for corrosion- just a little is enough to put pressure on the pads and jam them up. I usually wire wheel during pad swaps but sometimes this style needs to get hit with a little filing also.

You may need to invest in something like this:
https://www.amazon.com/Mueller-Kuep...mp;psc=1&refRID=GRANDXYR5S94VH8KTJG7


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Originally Posted by Rand
Originally Posted by JHZR2
5 years seems like a short time, even if in the salt belt.

I’d think silicone would be good. The thing is, if it heats up and runs off, then there’s nothing. Guess that’s where high content moly paste becomes a good idea.

Seems to me it’s inconsistent though what solution is best where.


The silicon never lasts on the pads. Eventually dries up/washes off etc.

I have never went more than 3-4 years so 5 years without any brake attention seems an eternity to me in the salt belt.

When I was using silicone it was every 1-2 years.


While you’re saltier then where I am, we do get coated all the same. And more rain too.

My brakes tend to last 100k+, so we never touch them. Not bragging, maybe I should... this is common practice to do?!? I’d guess not, even for dealer serviced cars where they want to sell extra services...

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I've had issues with the ears on on the backing plates of the pad that just fit too tight in the bracket regardless of lube or not, mainly when the pads are new.


I just take a buffing wheel on my die-grinder and just buff around the ear a little bit so it fits just a tad loose or snug but not tight in the shim material and it moves better freely instead of getting caught and not backing off properly in the bracket.


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Originally Posted by The Critic
I think the real solution is to disassemble, clean and relube annually.



I never believed that and it never ever mattered. Then along came my 13 Sonata and daughters 15 Elantra. Hyundai had something on its maintenance schedule about annual brake disassembly and cleaning. Yea Right🤥 nice warm to get owners wallet open for nothing.
Then in short order ours started wearing out fast dragging and hers sticking and pulling. Sure enough they were always fine to look at. No new exotic design nothing frozen or corroded 🤷🏼‍♂️Just dirty. So I started just yanking and cleaning sure enough it more or less ended the weird brake issues. The only difference I saw between those and all my priors is they were Aluminum bodies instead of steel. If that meant anything I couldn’t tell. The one I did replace didn’t show any obvious signs off corrosion build up . I didn’t pull the seal and puck to look though. I wish I had.
Another thing to look at with non OEM pads is how well they Fit in the ears. Some use stainless tabs to ride on while some direct fit in the slots. I’ve seen those so tight you need a little grinder or file trimming so they float properly.

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I've been using Never Sneeze for 40+ years. No problems.


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Sil- glide.


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Re: Anti seize vs silicone paste [Re: buck91] #5330808 01/24/20 06:14 AM
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I love the Sil-Glide vs Anti-Seize (and others) debate. It never ends.

You'd think someone would've done a fleet test......by 1955 or even earlier!
Anti-Seize seems like it would be a last ditch product to use.

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