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Re: New models of Camry have bad trany or throttle design [Re: JimPghPA] #5329028 01/21/20 07:49 PM
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I'm currently driving a new 4 cyl SE model as a rental. Seems like a decent family sedan to me. The transmission shifts crisply without any noticably weird behavior. It has acceptable power, and gets good fuel economy. I'm averaging just about 40 mpg in mixed driving. The structure feels solid. The handling, suspension, and braking feel fine. I'd have no problem recommending one to someone looking for a midsize sedan.

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Re: New models of Camry have bad trany or throttle design [Re: JimPghPA] #5329220 01/22/20 04:49 AM
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I forgot to mention the home brew cure for the infamous Camray transmission. Keep it in SPORT MODE. Yea it works pretty darn well too unless your one of those who has to find fault.
Remember well this car is at its worst the first ? Miles hours until you get to know each other. That learning sequence The tranny does will take some time. We sure won’t be trading ours anytime soon.

Re: New models of Camry have bad trany or throttle design [Re: JimPghPA] #5329224 01/22/20 05:13 AM
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I’ve owned an 8 speed with Lexus, I’m assuming it’s a totally different u it than the Camry, because THAT transmission was a marvel. Absolutely loved that thing...able to get impressive fuel economy in a large car. Some did complain about it...hunting, seemed confused, but I really liked it. Super durable too. Aisin or something.

The thing about the new Camry, it looks fast...to hear it’s slow and lags is disappointing. I understand the need for great fuel economy, I like that, but you have to give the customer a little something for enjoyment (especially when you design the car to look cutting edge/fast/exciting).

The new RAV4 is getting poor reviews too for hesitations/poor shifts. And they redesigned that thing to look more aggressive, bigger. Love the way these new Toyota’s look, it’s just they seemed to have forgotten the performance aspect of it.


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Re: New models of Camry have bad trany or throttle design [Re: JimPghPA] #5329229 01/22/20 05:33 AM
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I drive a 2019 Lexus RX350 with the same 8-speed. I had the latest TSB update from last summer applied already. In my opinion the AT leaves a lot to be desired. It drives reasonably well under most light throttle situations - gear changes are quick and smooth. However, give it anything past ⅓ throttle and the thing becomes a complete mess. You get a very abrupt multi-gear downshift - the kind of downshift you should only get if you buried the gas pedal to the floor. In response you let off the pedal and then you get a multi-gear upshift so that you are exactly where you started. The vehicle is impossible to drive with moderate acceleration and only seems to want light or full throttle acceleration. On top of that even when you truly want a multi-gear downshift like when you're merging onto the highway and you want maximum acceleration these always end in the AT banging into that lowest gear - it is not smooth.

I contrast this to my 2018 Honda Pilot with the ZF 9-speed which besides the 1-2 shift jerkiness is light years ahead of Aisin in terms of programming and drivability - very easy to get a predictable 1-gear or 2-gear or maximum number of gears downshift with the ZF.

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Re: New models of Camry have bad trany or throttle design [Re: Railrust] #5331041 01/24/20 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Railrust
I’ve owned an 8 speed with Lexus, I’m assuming it’s a totally different u it than the Camry, because THAT transmission was a marvel. Absolutely loved that thing...able to get impressive fuel economy in a large car. Some did complain about it...hunting, seemed confused, but I really liked it. Super durable too. Aisin or something.

The thing about the new Camry, it looks fast...to hear it’s slow and lags is disappointing. I understand the need for great fuel economy, I like that, but you have to give the customer a little something for enjoyment (especially when you design the car to look cutting edge/fast/exciting).

The new RAV4 is getting poor reviews too for hesitations/poor shifts. And they redesigned that thing to look more aggressive, bigger. Love the way these new Toyota’s look, it’s just they seemed to have forgotten the performance aspect of it.


There is a TSB for the RAV4 transmission issues. Not sure if it also applies to the Camry, which has a basically identical drivetrain.

Re: New models of Camry have bad trany or throttle design [Re: JimPghPA] #5331242 01/24/20 05:46 PM
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Had a new RAV4 as a rental car last week. Only for a few hours but what an awful vehicle. Everything felt and looked super cheap from the interior to the tailgate. In Eco mode it was like driving a potato. In Sport it was tolerable.

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