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Re: Scan Tool recommendation [Re: zmelli] #5326909 01/19/20 10:45 AM
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I have OBDLink LX Bluetooth that I use with an Android device running the free Scantool. Is there a better software for this device? I have a 2013 Fiesta hatch 5 speed. Is there anything that would be a better, more complete fit for it?

Re: Scan Tool recommendation [Re: zmelli] #5327055 01/19/20 01:24 PM
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I think people are confusing a true bidirectional scantool with one that has a few reset capabilities.

A true bidirectional scantool should be able to turn on the engine cooling fan on most vehicles.

True bidirectional ones are pricey.


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Re: Scan Tool recommendation [Re: borgward] #5327115 01/19/20 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by borgward
I have OBDLink LX Bluetooth that I use with an Android device running the free Scantool. Is there a better software for this device? I have a 2013 Fiesta hatch 5 speed. Is there anything that would be a better, more complete fit for it?


You have to try them out. CarScanner gives some custom Toyota sensors for free like the transmission temperature that you have to pay for in TorquePro. My understanding is that Ford has some custom sensors, too.


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Re: Scan Tool recommendation [Re: WagonWheel] #5327118 01/19/20 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by WagonWheel
The Foxwell NT510 is popular on the Honda boards since it is bidirectional and can reset the TPS on ‘05 J35s, for example. They run about 150$.

Last time I looked, a live logging bidirectional scanner w/ OEM support was in the $400+ range.

The “cheap & cheerful” ELM327 WiFi/Bluetooth readers + Torque Pro app are great for pulling codes and monitoring stats, but update frequency isn’t good enough for serious diagnostic work.


Depends how serious you need to get. Learning to use the scan tool for serious diagnostic work is not a trivial matter. Takes some studying to learn what's normal response and what is abnormal and the root cause of the abnormal signals. I've saved a lot ton of money with just the $20 reader and a few hours studying on youtube.


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Re: Scan Tool recommendation [Re: zmelli] #5327127 01/19/20 03:17 PM
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I read a review on a bidirectional scan tool where the user was able to discover that one of his O2 sensors were not performing correctly. This was on a 1998 CRV, his car was running sluggish and he did not have any check engine light . He would have never been able to detect the out of tolerance O2 sensor with the basic scan tool. Now I need to find that review.


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Re: Scan Tool recommendation [Re: zmelli] #5327166 01/19/20 04:42 PM
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I have a AUTEL MaxiPRO MP808. It's highly capable, powerful and easy to navigate.

Almost 'paid for itself' after locating and diagnosing its first DTC. smile

Data logging ignition timing, ethanol content and STFTs is a hoot...very insightful. Performs ABS bleeds, adaptation resets and minor coding, too.


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Re: Scan Tool recommendation [Re: Leo99] #5327182 01/19/20 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Leo99
Originally Posted by WagonWheel
The Foxwell NT510 is popular on the Honda boards since it is bidirectional and can reset the TPS on ‘05 J35s, for example. They run about 150$.


Depends how serious you need to get. Learning to use the scan tool for serious diagnostic work is not a trivial matter. Takes some studying to learn what's normal response and what is abnormal and the root cause of the abnormal signals. I've saved a lot ton of money with just the $20 reader and a few hours studying on youtube.


Yes, interpreting the data is another skill in and of itself. Doing something as simple as cleaning the throttle body on a Honda J35 used in 2005+ Odysseys requires a reset of the TPS - a capability I haven't seen on the $20 dongles. That being said, I agree that they are quite useful for many diagnostics.

What I would be interested in knowing is how the PID report rates vary on the ELM327 dongles vs. the professional scan/logging tools in the $400-$2000 range. I saw a YT video of a guy diagnosing a bad cat using a snap-on tool / tablet to display live O2 sensor data and other parameters as he adjusted the fuel/air mixture. He was able to zoom in to very small changes of O2 data output (sorry, don't recall the specifics) but the granularity displayed by the snap-on tool allowed hm to come to a conclusion. Of course his knowledge and skill set came into play, but I'm curious if something like a Blue Driver can capture/report data to such detail.


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Re: Scan Tool recommendation [Re: zmelli] #5327263 01/19/20 06:59 PM
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BlueDriver here as well.


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Re: Scan Tool recommendation [Re: splinter] #5327320 01/19/20 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by splinter


Data logging ... ethanol content


Scantool displays a gauge indicating Alcohol content. It reports zero content. I use Shell regular, so I am suspicious of that.Temperature gauge indicates 160 F, but idiot indicator indicates engine is warm - 4 out of 8 bars. MPG gauge shows 40 trip MPG but when I do the math, I get 37 MPG. Maybe the gas station is pumping less gas than the pump reports.

Re: Scan Tool recommendation [Re: Pelican] #5327441 01/19/20 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Pelican
Get yourself a Blue Driver $99.00 amazing what it can do do a search and you'll see.



This is what I use and it has served me very well.


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Re: Scan Tool recommendation [Re: zmelli] #5327507 01/20/20 03:06 AM
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Originally Posted by zmelli
I read a review on a bidirectional scan tool where the user was able to discover that one of his O2 sensors were not performing correctly. This was on a 1998 CRV, his car was running sluggish and he did not have any check engine light . He would have never been able to detect the out of tolerance O2 sensor with the basic scan tool. Now I need to find that review.



hey zmelli! I had that exact scenario on my 96 Civic. It's called OBD-2 "mode 6". In mode 6, you can evaluate how the tested result has moved within the allowed range of values.. This can indicate a slowly dying o2 sensor but not enough to have completely failed and have the CEL (check engine light) come on. When I was looking at a defective o2 sensor mine was at the lower end of the range in mode 6 on my obd2 scanner.. But when I tested the sensor directly with a multimeter, it showed infinity for the resistance! clearly it had already died! so at least the scanner pointed me in the right direction!

my obd2 scanner I got from harbor freight, and it does read all obd2 modes, including mode 6. so it wasn't really a bi-directional scan just another mode the computer (ecu) was reporting. had to jump in here since you were describing exactly what happened to me! hope that helps ya!

Re: Scan Tool recommendation [Re: zmelli] #5328303 01/20/20 10:12 PM
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I stumbled across this company that makes vehicle specific scnners. https://www.amazon.com/iCarsoft-Dia...L69G/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

Not very good reviews on the earlier models. Foxwell and bluedriver seem good.

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Re: Scan Tool recommendation [Re: zmelli] #5329013 01/21/20 07:35 PM
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I'm still using the Elmscan 5 USB with my ThinkPad 380Z that I bought many years ago and it has data logging capability. I would get a ScanTool OBDII scanner.
https://www.scantool.net/scan-tools/

Re: Scan Tool recommendation [Re: zmelli] #5329182 01/22/20 12:00 AM
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I bought a OBDLink LX Bluetooth several years ago. Did not work well w/Linux. I am now using the LX w/ Fire 8 HD Tablet running the scantool OBD-II car diagnostics software that I downloaded from Amazon Prime for Free. Wondering if that free software is identical to the Software that is downloaded from Scantool.

I am not going to upgrade the scanner until I am more familiar with using the software. Might upgrade to OBDLink MX+ or Blue Driver.

I selected Logs > Graphs which does not do anything. Trip Stats, and Trips work. Files seems to work.

Does the LX display all error codes for Ford, or do I need something else to do that?

What is Forscan? is it hardware, software or both. If software what do I need to run it?

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OBDLink MX+


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