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Can you move a car with the starter? #5327199 01/19/20 04:49 PM
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I must have heard this story at least 30 years ago if not much longer, that a guy driving a stick runs out of gas less than a block away from a gas station. Then with the transmission in gear, bumps the starter to move the car long enough to make it to the gas station. Car would have to be old enough not to have a clutch start switch, but is this plausible? Is the starter strong enough to move a car? Does a battery have enough power to do it for 100, 500, 1000 feet?

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Garage 54 should test this.

My personal guess is on a small, light car it might move the car some, while ruining the starter.

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Yes,with light vehicle and good battery

Re: Can you move a car with the starter? [Re: atikovi] #5327205 01/19/20 04:56 PM
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A light car with a gear reduction starter could do it-but modern cars have the clutch safety switch to stop the starter if the clutch pedal isn't stepped on. It's possible, but would be really hard on a starter (& done in first or reverse on a manual).


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With an older car I know you could but I don't know how far. Too many factors here.

Re: Can you move a car with the starter? [Re: atikovi] #5327212 01/19/20 05:05 PM
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I would think your servants would do it for you.

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/foru...sking-guy-to-pick-up-his-car#Post5326212

I CAN tell you this much: AFTER using a breaker bar and a 4' long piece of pipe and NOT breaking loose a crankshaft bolt, I wedged the breaker bar against the car frame, bumped the starter twice and it broke the bolt loose. https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=how+to+break+crankshaft+pulley+bolt+

Re: Can you move a car with the starter? [Re: atikovi] #5327217 01/19/20 05:10 PM
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This is a little different, but back in the day my 71 Toyota Celica manual transmission hydraulic clutch actuator went out 30 miles from home. I knew I could match revs to shift but the stoplights were gonna be a problem. So I would put it in neutral and coast to a stop and kill the engine. Then put it in first and start the engine when the light turned green and away I would go. But yeah, no clutch switch back then but that would be easy to override mechanically or with the wiring.

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My first car was an old 73' VW Bug with a 4 speed. I could move the car with the starter. I moved it a few feet once or twice, by accident. It wasn't something I did for fun or experimentation.


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Re: Can you move a car with the starter? [Re: atikovi] #5327242 01/19/20 05:37 PM
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WORTHLESS FANTASY OPPORTUNITY LOST:

When the first team assaults Skyfall, a premier James Bond movie, our hero blasts some bad guys with the Aston Martin's parking lights.

Those guns were fender mounted so I was hoping 007 would have to have twitched the starter with the trans in gear to spread the welcome.

Simple to do cinematographically and it would've been cool.

REAL LIFE:

I saw a mechanic "starter-jerk" a customer's car across a local shop's lot and the prop came out tore him a new one right in front of me. I was 8 years old.

This is why I'm an axe murderer today.

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I’ve seen it done on an old 80’s Honda hatch in my high school parking lot


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Re: Can you move a car with the starter? [Re: atikovi] #5327256 01/19/20 05:52 PM
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Jeeps with manual transmissions, except for the new JL, can move the Jeep with the starter in first gear in low range 4 wheel drive. This is for stopping on steep hills where it would be difficult to slip the clutch. So, if your engine wouldn't start, yes, the vehicle would move with the starter. The new JL Wrangler doesn't do this because it has hill hold where the brakes apply, keeping you from rolling back.


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Re: Can you move a car with the starter? [Re: atikovi] #5327257 01/19/20 05:53 PM
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I'd say yes...

Starter can also start a car in gear if the clutch slave cylinder fails. (done it)

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I used to do it with my '64 bug. 1st gear, crank it ans she fires. No clutch necessary.


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I recently sold my 22 year old 4Runner. I started it all the time in 1st gear low-range while off-road. Probably thousands of such starts over the years. I sold it with the original starter still working perfectly.

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Been there done that and got the tee shirt with my old MGB.
Was a total of maybe a hundred feet, but I made it to the gas pump, filled the tank and was then on my way.
With a robust starter, a decent battery and a light car, no problem.


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