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Seeing more FL820s failures... suggestions for other filters? #5325763 01/17/20 10:18 PM
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Been using nothing but MC FL820s filters on every Ford panther chassis I've owned, but among CVN, BITOG and other platforms, it seems like the tearing media problem is persisting or worsening...

What are some of the local favorites in regards to alternatives for the venerable 2v 4.6? Considering the Napa Gold or Bosch? Opinions welcome!


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14 Yaris 1.5L - 14k - Mobil Super Syn 5w-30 + 90915-YZZF2
05 Tundra 4.7L - 305k - Mobil Super HM 5w-30 + MC FL-400

Re: Seeing more FL820s failures... suggestions for other filters? [Re: PantherFan88] #5325777 01/17/20 10:30 PM
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Napa Gold. See if your local stores have the biannual filter sales, and stock up then for around $4/filter. Bosch is just rebranded Purolator and they don't make the D+ anymore, which was really the only good Bosch anyways.


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Re: Seeing more FL820s failures... suggestions for other filters? [Re: PantherFan88] #5325781 01/17/20 10:36 PM
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I have used Wix, Microguard, Fram and my trucks have all survived.

Re: Seeing more FL820s failures... suggestions for other filters? [Re: SubieRubyRoo] #5325785 01/17/20 10:38 PM
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Napa filter sale is in March I believe.


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Re: Seeing more FL820s failures... suggestions for other filters? [Re: PantherFan88] #5325815 01/17/20 11:09 PM
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Marco, the dates float some, depending on location. My 4 local stores never match by more than a day or two for any given sale, so I get ~3 weeks to buy cheap Golds, depending on how far I want to drive for them. Two of them also have Fall sales. YMMV


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Re: Seeing more FL820s failures... suggestions for other filters? [Re: SubieRubyRoo] #5325825 01/17/20 11:21 PM
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Thanks for the tips! I will be sure to keep a lookout


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14 Yaris 1.5L - 14k - Mobil Super Syn 5w-30 + 90915-YZZF2
05 Tundra 4.7L - 305k - Mobil Super HM 5w-30 + MC FL-400

Re: Seeing more FL820s failures... suggestions for other filters? [Re: PantherFan88] #5325829 01/17/20 11:29 PM
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I went with a Tough Guard in lieu of the FL820S that I had always used. Ultras have a good reputation on here but I don't run long enough OCIs to take advantage of the Ultras extended life.

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Originally Posted by TXCarGeek
I went with a Tough Guard in lieu of the FL820S that I had always used. Ultras have a good reputation on here but I don't run long enough OCIs to take advantage of the Ultras extended life.


- but, but, what about the extra filtering efficiency!?

Re: Seeing more FL820s failures... suggestions for other filters? [Re: PantherFan88] #5325911 01/18/20 02:25 AM
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NAPA Silver 31372. $4.49. Done.


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Re: Seeing more FL820s failures... suggestions for other filters? [Re: tundraotto] #5325915 01/18/20 02:31 AM
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Originally Posted by TXCarGeek
I went with a Tough Guard in lieu of the FL820S that I had always used. Ultras have a good reputation on here but I don't run long enough OCIs to take advantage of the Ultras extended life.


- but, but, what about the extra filtering efficiency!?


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banana welcome

Re: Seeing more FL820s failures... suggestions for other filters? [Re: tundraotto] #5325937 01/18/20 04:39 AM
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Originally Posted by tundraotto
Originally Posted by TXCarGeek
I went with a Tough Guard in lieu of the FL820S that I had always used. Ultras have a good reputation on here but I don't run long enough OCIs to take advantage of the Ultras extended life.


- but, but, what about the extra filtering efficiency!?


TG and XG efficiency is basically the same. Using an XG over a TG would probably be for other reasons beside efficiency difference.

Re: Seeing more FL820s failures... suggestions for other filters? [Re: PantherFan88] #5325944 01/18/20 05:40 AM
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I'm with you and won't use any 820's because of sloppy construction.I picked up several Fram Tough guards reduced at W.M. last year. I have been pleased with them in my Ford 4.6 and no start up rattle either.

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Re: Seeing more FL820s failures... suggestions for other filters? [Re: PantherFan88] #5325952 01/18/20 06:11 AM
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Had no idea the crown vic/ town car was called the panther chassis. Very interesting.

If you’ve been using the 820s this whole time, the Fram Extra Guard is an excellent replacement. WIX works too if you want to spend the extra money.


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Re: Seeing more FL820s failures... suggestions for other filters? [Re: PantherFan88] #5325995 01/18/20 08:16 AM
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Or you can be like me and use an Ultra for multiple oil changes, as long as your engine is clean, I just changed 6 quarts of Magnatec yesterday at 7500 miles, leaving the Ultra on for at least another 7500.


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