Recent Topics
5w-20 vs 5w-30
by joel95ex - 02/26/20 10:59 PM
Need help d/l'ing vids from JVC GZ-MG27
by daves66nova - 02/26/20 10:18 PM
Need a riding mower
by FirstNissan - 02/26/20 08:32 PM
Just bot Quicken 2020 Premier for
by Ed_T - 02/26/20 08:31 PM
Corona Virus and Car Sales?
by Vern_in_IL - 02/26/20 07:34 PM
Emblem Adhesive Recommendation
by Fitz98 - 02/26/20 07:18 PM
Drain Plug Washer Frozen to Oil Pan
by CrackyWainwright - 02/26/20 06:31 PM
ams OE 0/20 6100 mi 14 KIA 2.4L GDI
by pair of Blazers - 02/26/20 06:17 PM
Any Exotic Brand Dealership Mechanics Here?
by john_pifer - 02/26/20 06:14 PM
Sentra no start
by Aredeeem - 02/26/20 06:07 PM
Sync Update 2016 Cmax
by borgward - 02/26/20 03:30 PM
Kirkland 0w20 at local Costco
by paulri - 02/26/20 03:12 PM
LG Red in a VW DSG trans?
by racin4ds - 02/26/20 02:31 PM
2013 Jaguar XF 3.0 AWD
by ET16 - 02/26/20 02:25 PM
Ford....in trouble??
by earthbound - 02/26/20 01:31 PM
Interesting read
by double vanos - 02/26/20 10:51 AM
2010 Honda Element 127K miles valvetrain picture
by SLO_Town - 02/26/20 10:01 AM
Newest Members
Scotts994Runner, Bu33leGutz, splitthebreak, shadango, JimNastic316
70808 Registered Users
Who's Online Now
29 registered members (dbias, carlprop, deoxy4, blufeb95, 928, bworley, 1 invisible), 1,037 guests, and 16 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums67
Topics301,965
Posts5,206,604
Members70,808
Most Online4,538
Jan 20th, 2020
Donate to BITOG
Print Thread
Hop To
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3
"We only recheck lug nut torque if you have over 100,000 miles" #5325247 01/17/20 11:51 AM
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 2,863
M
mclasser Offline OP
OP Offline
M
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 2,863
I had my tires rotated at a local shop. The guy said to come back in the standard 100 miles to have the lugs retorqued. I always do my own torque check at home but I was driving by the shop a week later and thought I'd have them just do it. Another guy was at the counter and he said they only recheck torque on older cars over 100,000 miles (my Elantra only has 20k). He asked if the tech found a problem when I came in for the rotation, to which I replied no. I started getting tired of the guy's face, said thanks and left.

I've never heard of torque rechecks only being applicable to 100k mile cars. I thought it was common practice on any car with alloy/aluminum rims. Anyone else ever come across such a thing before?


2018 Hyundai Elantra VE
2013 Honda Pilot EX-L 4WD
2002 Honda Accord EX-L

Re: "We only recheck lug nut torque if you have over 100,000 miles" [Re: mclasser] #5325250 01/17/20 11:55 AM
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 6,011
JohnnyJohnson Offline
Offline
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 6,011
Looking to upsell you some more service.


2004 Corolla 139161
Out: Havoline Pro DS 10w-30 Purolator PureOne 10-29-19 136457
In: Pennzoil Platinum HM 5W-20 ST 4386
2006 Duramax 77060
Out: T6 5W-40 XG9100 73909
In: Rotella Dino PH9100 11-3-19
Re: "We only recheck lug nut torque if you have over 100,000 miles" [Re: mclasser] #5325254 01/17/20 12:00 PM
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 2,061
D
dareo Offline
Offline
D
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 2,061
Re-torque is smart anytime a wheel comes off. Nothing at all to do with mileage on the car.


2018 Regal TourX, 2016 Golf Wagon 5MT, 2016 GMC 1500 SLT 6.2
Re: "We only recheck lug nut torque if you have over 100,000 miles" [Re: mclasser] #5325264 01/17/20 12:16 PM
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 1,386
T
Traction Offline
Offline
T
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 1,386
Usually assuming they were correctly torqued in the first place, I try not to worry about it, or even re-check my own. But, if the lug nuts/studs are in bad condition, and there is corrosion all over the mating surfaces of the wheel, and hub, then it is a really good idea to re-check them often, or fix the issues.


Certified Tire Service Instructor since 2009
50 Chevy Fire Truck
13 Tahoe Pursuit
97 C5 Corvette
00 BMW M Roadster
02 Camry
12 Camry
81 Camaro
55 Chevy C4
Re: "We only recheck lug nut torque if you have over 100,000 miles" [Re: JohnnyJohnson] #5325270 01/17/20 12:22 PM
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,518
J
jeepman3071 Offline
Offline
J
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,518
Originally Posted by JohnnyJohnson
Looking to upsell you some more service.


+1

I've never needed anything re-torqued. Usually I come back to yell at them because I couldn't get the lugs off by standing on a breaker bar.


1998 Jeep Wrangler Sahara 4.0L/5MT (156k) - PHM 10w30, Wix 51085
2009 BMW 328i N51 (58k) - Liqui Moly 5w40, MANN HU816X
Re: "We only recheck lug nut torque if you have over 100,000 miles" [Re: dareo] #5325271 01/17/20 12:23 PM
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,518
J
jeepman3071 Offline
Offline
J
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,518
Originally Posted by dareo
Re-torque is smart anytime a wheel comes off. Nothing at all to do with mileage on the car.


+1 And torqued to the recommended spec with a torque wrench.


1998 Jeep Wrangler Sahara 4.0L/5MT (156k) - PHM 10w30, Wix 51085
2009 BMW 328i N51 (58k) - Liqui Moly 5w40, MANN HU816X
Re: "We only recheck lug nut torque if you have over 100,000 miles" [Re: mclasser] #5325292 01/17/20 12:39 PM
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 14,539
T
tig1 Offline
Offline
T
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 14,539
For many years I have re-torqued lug nuts with a torque wrench. Primary reasons are,

1) make sure all lug nuts are the same correct torque.

2) If they aren't all the same torque then brake wobble can occur as the rotors my develop run out, and cause the brakes to shutter especially at highway speeds.


2007 Ford Fusion 254,000 miles
M1 5-20HM
2017 Ford Fusion 86K
M1 0-20EP
10,000 mile OCIs on both engines
M1 ATF and M1 LV HP ATF
M1 10-30 in all OPE
MC filters

Re: "We only recheck lug nut torque if you have over 100,000 miles" [Re: mclasser] #5325339 01/17/20 01:24 PM
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 20,300
C
Chris142 Offline
Offline
C
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 20,300
Strange indeed.


02 Wrangler Napa high milage 10w40
87 F250 Valvoline 15w40
07 fjcruiser Car lube plus 10w30
Z400 castrol T 10w40
Can am Maveric edge 5w40
57 case tractor Chevron sae30
Re: "We only recheck lug nut torque if you have over 100,000 miles" [Re: mclasser] #5325350 01/17/20 01:35 PM
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 2,869
C
csandste Offline
Offline
C
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 2,869
I had one wheel almost drop off after tire service. Probably 35 years ago so I can't remember details, think it was on a mid-eighties Plymouth/Dodge Colt (in fact the car may have had both brand labels). I did ask someone at Costco when they were retorquing, whether or not they had loosened lugs and he said "never".


2017 Kia Soul Plus-- Valvoline Daily Protection 5w30+ a bit of Harvest King syn 5w30-- 75,000 miles
Re: "We only recheck lug nut torque if you have over 100,000 miles" [Re: mclasser] #5325370 01/17/20 01:57 PM
Joined: Sep 2019
Posts: 74
N
nlife Offline
Offline
N
Joined: Sep 2019
Posts: 74
I have a tag hanging from my mirror right now saying re-torque after 100km because they were rotated yesterday. I've had 3 tires come loose after being rotated/switched over so I ALWAYS re-torque after 100km. Thankfully none of the tires actually fell off, but it's scary to think of what could happen if one let loose at highway speeds.

Re: "We only recheck lug nut torque if you have over 100,000 miles" [Re: mclasser] #5325414 01/17/20 02:44 PM
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 440
D
dubber09 Offline
Offline
D
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 440
I do rotations myself and re torque next day or 2 days later but always do.

Saw a jeep driving not long ago with what looked like last singe lug barely holding driver front wheel and tire was so violently wobbling I thought I'll see it fall off but he turned off to secondary road, dunno what happened next.


Kia Sportage 2014 GDI 2.4L
Kia Forte 2014 MPI 1.8L
Re: "We only recheck lug nut torque if you have over 100,000 miles" [Re: jeepman3071] #5325421 01/17/20 02:49 PM
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 7,592
gathermewool Offline
Offline
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 7,592
I've never found any wheel that didn't pass the re-torque check. Each lug nut has always resulted in an instant click when I put a torque wrench back on it. I've actually recently only been spot-checking lug-nuts. If one ever fails the spot-check I'll check there rest.

Originally Posted by jeepman3071
Originally Posted by JohnnyJohnson
Looking to upsell you some more service.


+1

I've never needed anything re-torqued. Usually I come back to yell at them because I couldn't get the lugs off by standing on a breaker bar.


Before we were married, my then-GF had a brake issue that required immediate attention. She lived a couple of hours away, but I luckily had hand-tools in my car while visiting. I did not have a good breaker bar, though... I bounced and bounced my 180# on her OE tire iron and NOTHING! Her tires had very recently been replaced.

I called and asked the counter guy how they verify the lug nuts are torqued correctly?" The guy replied over the phone that they use "torque sticks" on every install. We took a little trip over and just so happened to see some tech HAMMERING away at some lug-nuts with an air impact while installing a customer's wheels. I walked in and up to the counter guy I'd spoken with on the phone and couldn't contain myself, I was so mad. I raised my voice, so that the few people in the waiting area could hear me. I pointed to the tech installing the wheel and asked, "does that look like a torque stick to you!? How do you expect people to get their wheels off in an emergency if you guys are hammering away at the lug nuts like that!?"

I may have blacked-out during my rant, but I do remember coming to after they immediately got us on a lift and loosened the lug nuts for us. crackmeup


14 Forester XT Touring FA20DIT (Cobb Stage 1)
Castrol Magnatec 5W-30 D1G2 + FU filter (72,320mi, 8/24/19)
15 Legacy Premium FB25
Magnatec 5W-20 + FU filter (47,300mi, 5/11/19)
Re: "We only recheck lug nut torque if you have over 100,000 miles" [Re: mclasser] #5325464 01/17/20 03:43 PM
Joined: Aug 2019
Posts: 634
T
tundraotto Offline
Offline
T
Joined: Aug 2019
Posts: 634
He didn't feel like re-torquing anything that day - or probably any other day either.

Re: "We only recheck lug nut torque if you have over 100,000 miles" [Re: mclasser] #5325524 01/17/20 05:12 PM
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 1,386
T
Traction Offline
Offline
T
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 1,386
Yes they won't come loose when they over torque them. They might just snap off instead though. But lubing them they get over torqued too, but they loosen up easily when removing. I've never bought a new car that they requested I come back for them to check them either. Installed correctly, they shouldn't need to be re-torqued. It shouldn't be called re-torque either, since that would involve loosening them all to get a torque check which only happens when the nut is moving. If you did that, then wouldn't you have to do it all over every 50 miles? No torque wrench needed, just make sure none have loosened with a normal lug wrench.


Certified Tire Service Instructor since 2009
50 Chevy Fire Truck
13 Tahoe Pursuit
97 C5 Corvette
00 BMW M Roadster
02 Camry
12 Camry
81 Camaro
55 Chevy C4
Re: "We only recheck lug nut torque if you have over 100,000 miles" [Re: gathermewool] #5325526 01/17/20 05:15 PM
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 3,624
M
maxdustington Offline
Offline
M
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 3,624
Originally Posted by gathermewool
I've never found any wheel that didn't pass the re-torque check. Each lug nut has always resulted in an instant click when I put a torque wrench back on it. I've actually recently only been spot-checking lug-nuts. If one ever fails the spot-check I'll check there rest.

Originally Posted by jeepman3071
Originally Posted by JohnnyJohnson
Looking to upsell you some more service.


+1

I've never needed anything re-torqued. Usually I come back to yell at them because I couldn't get the lugs off by standing on a breaker bar.


Before we were married, my then-GF had a brake issue that required immediate attention. She lived a couple of hours away, but I luckily had hand-tools in my car while visiting. I did not have a good breaker bar, though... I bounced and bounced my 180# on her OE tire iron and NOTHING! Her tires had very recently been replaced.

I called and asked the counter guy how they verify the lug nuts are torqued correctly?" The guy replied over the phone that they use "torque sticks" on every install. We took a little trip over and just so happened to see some tech HAMMERING away at some lug-nuts with an air impact while installing a customer's wheels. I walked in and up to the counter guy I'd spoken with on the phone and couldn't contain myself, I was so mad. I raised my voice, so that the few people in the waiting area could hear me. I pointed to the tech installing the wheel and asked, "does that look like a torque stick to you!? How do you expect people to get their wheels off in an emergency if you guys are hammering away at the lug nuts like that!?"

I may have blacked-out during my rant, but I do remember coming to after they immediately got us on a lift and loosened the lug nuts for us. crackmeup
I bought this story until the part about wasting lift time for a re-torque. BS!


99 Toyota Tercel CE 5EFE/C151
PUP 5W30/Ultra
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3
Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread

BOB IS THE OIL GUY® Powered by UBB.threads™