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Help understanding Pennzoil Ultra Platinum oil #5322555 01/14/20 03:07 PM
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I need your help understanding what I see in the bottom of the "pure" Ultra Platinum Pennzoil oil.
After changing the oil in our '15 BMW X5, I noticed some "dark" stuff in the bottom of the 5 qt jug. What is thins stuff? I thought that this was suppose to be the Purest motor oil since it's made from natural gas. AS I understand it, BMW switched form Castrol to Shell (who owns Pennzoil) because it was so PURE.
Can someone tell me what this stuff is

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Re: Help understanding Pennzoil Ultra Platinum oil [Re: rav] #5322558 01/14/20 03:11 PM
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Without a VOA you can only guess but, typically we/I think it is additive separation. The recommendation is to always shake vigorously any oil container before dispensing. Ed


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Re: Help understanding Pennzoil Ultra Platinum oil [Re: rav] #5322566 01/14/20 03:16 PM
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would be interested in sending that to a lab and find out exactly whats in it. I would mainly be interested in knowing if its part of a critical additive that is falling out or what. Maybe its the Unicorn tears


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Re: Help understanding Pennzoil Ultra Platinum oil [Re: rav] #5322568 01/14/20 03:17 PM
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Hmmmm? It could be settled additives. It could be used motor oil. Did you buy that at Walmart? There have been stories of people returning used oil in exchange for new.


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Re: Help understanding Pennzoil Ultra Platinum oil [Re: rav] #5322579 01/14/20 03:26 PM
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Additive drop out is my understanding as well. Can't recall where I saw it though. May have been here or on the F150 forums.

Re: Help understanding Pennzoil Ultra Platinum oil [Re: rav] #5322590 01/14/20 03:36 PM
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It's probably dirt, clearly Shell doesn't change filters on the line often enough and the "pure" line is just marketing BS.

Re: Help understanding Pennzoil Ultra Platinum oil [Re: rav] #5322593 01/14/20 03:37 PM
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If it is additive fallout, why is it brown? My oil is Pennzoil, so I wonder. Looks more like impurities to me?

Re: Help understanding Pennzoil Ultra Platinum oil [Re: holder] #5322597 01/14/20 03:40 PM
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What color are additives supposed to be?


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Re: Help understanding Pennzoil Ultra Platinum oil [Re: rav] #5322605 01/14/20 03:49 PM
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Additive fall out is my thought. Shake and pour.
The contaminant theory also has merit. Storage, transfer and blending tanks can get contaminated and unless it is ISO certified you never know. Often particle count is better in slightly used oil than new oil.


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Re: Help understanding Pennzoil Ultra Platinum oil [Re: rav] #5322613 01/14/20 03:57 PM
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Here's a similar 7 page thread from 2017. On page 6 a poster quoted his reply from Pennzoil: https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4285953/6

"Finding sediment or deposits at the bottom of new bottles of motor oil is a common and harmless occurrence in all conventional and synthetic motor oil products in the market today. This may occur regardless of the base oil used and does not negatively impact the performance of a motor oil.

Most often, the sediment found is a by-product of a type of nanotechnology used in motor oils to keep the pH balance correct in storage, and then in use inside a motor. The practice is commonly referred to as over-basing a motor oil and is designed to account for the acids formed in an engine during the combustion process.

Periodically, some cosmetic dropout from motor oil is observed in a bottle, and that is most typically due to the result of effective nanotechnology in action, or the slow release of over-based detergents to help neutralize acids. Motor oil formulations are highly specified to help reduce the incidence, but ultimately over time some harmless molecular dropout will occur.

The filtration process employed when formulating the motor oils removes much of the sediment, and then once in use in an engine, any remaining particles are removed through normal operation.

Regards,
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It almost looks like used oil. I always shake up the oil before pouring it in. I'll take a jug, or quarts a few days before an oil change and leave it on my work bench. I'll shake it every time I walk past the work bench. By the time I change the oil it is very well shaken.


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Re: Help understanding Pennzoil Ultra Platinum oil [Re: rav] #5322616 01/14/20 04:00 PM
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It used to be talked about alot on the older Shell Rotella 15w40 jugs. The jugs are white and the additives in the bottom were pretty obvious. I think someone said it was likely Calcium..since its a fairly heavy element.

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Originally Posted by doitmyself
Here's a similar 7 page thread from 2017. On page 6 a poster quoted his reply from Pennzoil: https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4285953/6

"Finding sediment or deposits at the bottom of new bottles of motor oil is a common and harmless occurrence in all conventional and synthetic motor oil products in the market today. This may occur regardless of the base oil used and does not negatively impact the performance of a motor oil.

Most often, the sediment found is a by-product of a type of nanotechnology used in motor oils to keep the pH balance correct in storage, and then in use inside a motor. The practice is commonly referred to as over-basing a motor oil and is designed to account for the acids formed in an engine during the combustion process.

Periodically, some cosmetic dropout from motor oil is observed in a bottle, and that is most typically due to the result of effective nanotechnology in action, or the slow release of over-based detergents to help neutralize acids. Motor oil formulations are highly specified to help reduce the incidence, but ultimately over time some harmless molecular dropout will occur.

The filtration process employed when formulating the motor oils removes much of the sediment, and then once in use in an engine, any remaining particles are removed through normal operation.

Regards,
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Seems plausible i suppose. Wonder what Mola' would say???

OP, what did the rest of the product look like? Did it look used or like a virgin oil?

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It's motor oil.
How are you calibrating your visual expectations?
Marketing???


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Re: Help understanding Pennzoil Ultra Platinum oil [Re: krismoriah72] #5322632 01/14/20 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by krismoriah72
It used to be talked about alot on the older Shell Rotella 15w40 jugs. The jugs are white and the additives in the bottom were pretty obvious. I think someone said it was likely Calcium..since its a fairly heavy element.

No, calcium is one of the lightest.


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