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Hard Drive Upgrade #5320229 01/11/20 08:23 PM
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I'm still using an old desktop computer I built many years ago and upgraded to W10 from a WXP to W8.1 Pro promotion (~2014?). It seems to be bit a bit slow starting up so I'm thinking that doing a clean re installation of Windows 10 couldn't hurt. I currently have 2 hard drives: 160 GB c: (OS) and 500 GB d: (data). My d: drive is slowly running out of space (48.7 GB free of 465 GB) so I thought I would buy a 1TB drive to use as my d: drive and move the 500 GB drive to be my c: drive.

For higher reliability, I thought I would get a 1TB NAS drive and found a Seagate Ironwolf on clearance. Seagate Presales Support recommended the current model. Is there any reason to be concerned about a superseded but brand new NAS hard drive?

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Thinking SSD is the path for your upgrade. 1TB for close to $100.


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Re: Hard Drive Upgrade [Re: fraso] #5320241 01/11/20 08:40 PM
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I wouldn't even consider using a spinning disc hard drive unless it was purely for storage.

SSD is where it's at for the OS.


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Re: Hard Drive Upgrade [Re: fraso] #5320242 01/11/20 08:40 PM
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SSD for the OS. You'll be amazed by the difference in performance.

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Re: Hard Drive Upgrade [Re: OilReport99] #5320264 01/11/20 09:03 PM
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SSD for the OS. It does have to be that big either. I ran W10 on 128GB I bought two years ago before they got cheaper. The rest of the machine was about 10 years old at the time.


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Re: Hard Drive Upgrade [Re: Randy_R] #5320297 01/11/20 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Randy_R
SSD for the OS. It does have to be that big either. I ran W10 on 128GB I bought two years ago before they got cheaper. The rest of the machine was about 10 years old at the time.

THIS!!

My Current PC has a Kingston 120GB SSD for the boot Drive
I still have an old Netbook, that came with win 7 Home Prem. installed, and I was able to upgrade it to 10, it only has a 32GB SSD. and it runs..painfully slowly, but it runs. it actually runs 10 a little better than it did 7.
(I actually bought the Kingston to upgrade the netbook, but upon disasembly, I found out it takes an M2 SSD, not a SATA, like i had bought. this PC needed one anyway..)

also, if you like Seagate and have had luck with their products in the past..more power to ya. Me personally, I've never had a Seagate that didn't fail within a year, and twice, right out of the box...
on the other hand, Western Digital has NEVER let me down. (but I know people with the exact opposite experience...so...YMMV...

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Re: Hard Drive Upgrade [Re: fraso] #5320315 01/11/20 09:50 PM
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Thanks for the prompt replies. I hadn't thought about SSDs because I thought they were too expensive. I see that BestBuy.ca has some reasonably-priced 250 GB drives and I haven't looked much further yet. Is there a better SSD drive to look out for?

As for Seagate, I haven't had much experience with them lately and I believe that I have WD in my computer right now. Would it be worthwhile getting a NAS drive for data safety?

Any good places to get disk drives?

Re: Hard Drive Upgrade [Re: fraso] #5320325 01/11/20 09:56 PM
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At this point almost every SSD is reliable. I like SanDisk.

https://www.amazon.ca/SanDisk-240GB...PLUS+240GB&qid=1578801503&sr=8-1

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Re: Hard Drive Upgrade [Re: fraso] #5320331 01/11/20 10:02 PM
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I got a 500G Samsung SSD and cloning cable for about 100$ at BB. The 1T SSD drive was only $110 but I just didn't need that much space. Samsung offers free cloning software to go with their SSD drives.

Going to the SSD turned a slug laptop into a screamer. Only problem I had was that the cloning software would not work until I had decrypted the HD (std Win 10 encryption). That was about a 12 hr process with the old slow hard drive.


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Re: Hard Drive Upgrade [Re: fraso] #5320334 01/11/20 10:03 PM
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I didn't do the cloning thing. Just a clean W10 install and kept the old spinning disk as storage

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Definitely go with an SSD for your boot drive. I upgraded my HP 8730W with an SSD, running W10 and it boots in ~45 seconds. I have a 500gb 7,200 RPM drive that handles all the storage and apps, I swapped out the CD-ROM drive for an additional hard drive caddy. It's certainly helped with the way the machine runs, at this point I can't imagine buying another machine.


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Re: Hard Drive Upgrade [Re: fraso] #5320552 01/12/20 08:46 AM
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I just upgraded an older laptop to a Samsung EVO 860 SSD and the speed change was awesome. I was also considering a Sandisk Ultra 3D. There are several types of SSD storage technologies, some faster and more reliable than others
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Crucial makes good SSDs, too.

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kill 2 birds with one drive: get the large (1TB) SSD. divide into C for boot OS, D for storage. allocate the storage.

I'd recommend
1. delete all the unneeded files (temps, HTML, downloads, old windows updates, etc) - use CCleaner
2. defrag your original C and D drives (feel good step) (completely unnecessary for SSDs)
3. use the HDD-specific version of Acronis (WD, Seagate, etc) to clone your original HDDS to the new SSD
4. when cloning adjust the source (C, then D) to copy to a larger (C, then D) by whatever you need.
5. you can connect the new SSD drive to your machine using a USB kit or whatever is (included or optional)
with your new SSD drive
6. when you replace the HDDs, get couple of USB enclosures and re-purpose old drives as USB backups.
7. change settings for your machine to sleep or hibernate (or even shutdown) using a standard button/lid change

and yes, the speed improvement is awesome.


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Depends how old your computer is. Ram, processors and hard drives have gotten so much faster and bigger in size. Often it pays to just get another computer. Desk tops are almost ancient now with all the good lap tops and tablets out now.


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