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Solid choice 0w-20? #5318176 01/09/20 09:39 PM
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I upgraded my vehicle to a 2020 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited. I stayed with the 3.6 Pentastar. It now calls for 0w-20 for CAFE numbers I guess. My old Jeep JK called for 5w-20. I used Kendall Gt-1 or Castrol black bottle in it. I want to use the recommended oil viscosity but 0w-20 is new to me and I have some concerns. Looking for recommendations for a solid choice in 0w-20. I went through the owners manual and there is no "may use 5w-20". I wanted to see what recommendations the forum had for 0w-20. Thanks!


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Re: Solid choice 0w-20? [Re: The_Captain] #5318179 01/09/20 09:41 PM
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Hard to go wrong really. Pennzoil has the Chrysler spec, if I'm not mistaken, so maybe give that a try.

Re: Solid choice 0w-20? [Re: The_Captain] #5318185 01/09/20 09:48 PM
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You are correct, the 20 grade oil is due to CAFE; the original specification for the 3.6 Pentastar was 5w-30 (which is what I'd use)

That said, JustN89 is correct, to meet 0w-20 all the oils will be pretty good. What's your budget for oil?


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Re: Solid choice 0w-20? [Re: The_Captain] #5318207 01/09/20 10:11 PM
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Castrol Magnatec
Pennzoil Platinum
Castrol Edge
Mobil 1 EP
- in no particular order - thats just what I pick from depending on price.
not that I wouldn't pick up Supertech if nothing was on sale

Re: Solid choice 0w-20? [Re: The_Captain] #5318216 01/09/20 10:20 PM
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Any major brand that meets the specs.


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Re: Solid choice 0w-20? [Re: The_Captain] #5318233 01/09/20 10:30 PM
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On my 2015 Caravan with the Pentastar, I've used Pennzoil Platinum 5w-20, Pennzoil Platinum 5w-30, and Valvoline White Bottle 5w-30 in Summer months. No issue with any of those three oils.

Current fill is Pennzoil Ultra 0w-20.

I would go with Pennzoil Platinum 0w-20 if you are concerned about Warranty.


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Re: Solid choice 0w-20? [Re: The_Captain] #5318246 01/09/20 10:49 PM
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QSUD 0W20.


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Re: Solid choice 0w-20? [Re: The_Captain] #5318287 01/09/20 11:59 PM
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M1 AFE, EP, Pennz Plat, Pennz Ultra, Toyota, QS, valvoline, supertech etc etc. Tons of great options. Choose your preferred brand and go with it. My fave 2 are; M1 AFE & Pennz Ultra.


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Re: Solid choice 0w-20? [Re: The_Captain] #5318293 01/10/20 12:10 AM
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Being FCA,I would go Pennzoil Ultra,Platinum or QSUD 0w20. M1 or Castrol Magnatec too. Zombie Apocalypse go Redline 0w20.


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Re: Solid choice 0w-20? [Re: The_Captain] #5318302 01/10/20 12:19 AM
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Once upon a time 5w30 was "per CAFE" and people had the same concerns then as you do now. Pretty much any brand name 0w20 will get that Pentastar well over 200,000 miles. I'm sure your Wrangler will just be but a memory by then.

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Here’s one.

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If you want the job done right......do it yourself.
Re: Solid choice 0w-20? [Re: The_Captain] #5318324 01/10/20 01:05 AM
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I have a 3.6L Pentastar in my Pacifica.

A note on oil pressure. It has some fancy oil pump that either has 32 PSI at lower speeds, or 85 PSI at higher speeds. Thats it. Its a two speed oil pump. There is no in between. Its either 32 PSI, or 85 PSI. I dont know how it works.

That being said, I believe the engineers got it right. 0W20, at those pressures is overkill. You got plenty of oil on the bearings. Also, it says 4000 mile changes if you idle a lot, which I do.

I'm the first person on this board to throw the CAFE out the window with the bath water. I dont think a 30 weight is really beneficial in this engine. I truly do believe that it was designed to give a very long life on 0W20 oil.

That being said, I'll never do the 10K miles changes that the car ask for, I always do 5K miles with synthetic. I did an oil change a few days ago, and from start to finish took me a grand total of like 6 minutes. And that included the clean up. So easy and cheap to just do it myself every 5K miles. No need to extend that out to 10K. Thats my opinion.

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I’m running Castrol 0w40 in both my Pentastar’s. Hot idle is 33-35, cold is 90+, just like it was on 5w20 and 0w20. Cruising along at 1500rpm in 8th gear it’s at 40.

Bubbatime, the way I understood the oil pump on these is it’s variable output AND variable pressure. When cold, it reduces the amount of oil pumped, and as it heats up it increases how much oil is pumped. Get above about 3500rpm and the pressure goes back up to ~90.


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Originally Posted by The_Captain
I upgraded my vehicle to a 2020 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited. I stayed with the 3.6 Pentastar. It now calls for 0w-20 for CAFE numbers I guess. My old Jeep JK called for 5w-20. I used Kendall Gt-1 or Castrol black bottle in it. I want to use the recommended oil viscosity but 0w-20 is new to me and I have some concerns. Looking for recommendations for a solid choice in 0w-20. I went through the owners manual and there is no "may use 5w-20". I wanted to see what recommendations the forum had for 0w-20. Thanks!

Mobil-1 EP is the consensus favorite here, because of PAO content.
Pennzoil, Castrol and Valvoline rock too, just a step behind.
Then there's Magnatec and Quaker State following the four names above.
House brand names follow behind the six I mentioned above.

It really depends on how long you're keeping the new ride. I keep mine 18 years on average. So if you sell long before it's old age, use the house brands like Supertech, NAPA......etc...... OEM filters to save more money.

If you have a ton of money, Amsoil, Red Line, Ravenol, Schaeffers.....etc..... are worth mentioning.

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Re: Solid choice 0w-20? [Re: The_Captain] #5318383 01/10/20 06:00 AM
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Any major brand.....


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