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I think I'm done fussing over filters #5317700 01/09/20 01:58 PM
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I already run whatever brand oil I find on sale or have a stockpile of because of rebates, why not filters too? My highway mileage has gone from 50% to about 10% since a role change at work so I've shortened my OCI to 6K mi max. My van is also about 6K but not sure if it goes longer from the Honda percentage algorithm. Last year while on vacation in North Carolina, I grabbed a couple 6607 Fram Core's for $1.90 each from a large box. I wish I would have bought the whole box. All I ever see on these forums is people cutting open paper endcap filters and they are perfectly fine. I think it's going to be supertech's, ACdelco's, Bosch, and Motorcrafts for me from now on.

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Re: I think I'm done fussing over filters [Re: jayjr1105] #5317709 01/09/20 02:05 PM
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I don't worry too much about oil filters or their efficiency as long as the element remains in one piece, I don't want bits going into the oil galley. I do worry about the air filter, keeping the housing tight and properly sealed and the PCV system sealed and in good working order, that is where the dirt ingress occurs,


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Re: I think I'm done fussing over filters [Re: jayjr1105] #5317711 01/09/20 02:06 PM
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The reality is with modern technology most name brand API certified conventional oils and most filters will be perfectly fine for 5-6k mile intervals. The average car on the road sees much much worse maintenance and is just fine. A friend works at an oil change quick lube as a manager. He says every day they open drain plugs where nothing comes out. Most of these cars he has no idea how they are still running, yet they keep coming back.


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Re: I think I'm done fussing over filters [Re: jayjr1105] #5317722 01/09/20 02:24 PM
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The reality is, pick a oil filter and be done with it.

Some on this forum analyze things too far, life is too short for worrying about oil filters.

cheers


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Re: I think I'm done fussing over filters [Re: RazorsEdge] #5317738 01/09/20 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by RazorsEdge
The reality is, pick a oil filter and be done with it.

Some on this forum analyze things too far, life is too short for worrying about oil filters.

cheers


That and even if you maintain the car religiously, someone could T-bone you at a stop light tomorrow.


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Re: I think I'm done fussing over filters [Re: jayjr1105] #5317769 01/09/20 03:26 PM
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Go with what you are comfortable with. As others have said many of us get OCD when it comes to filters (I might be included but that's ok).


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Re: I think I'm done fussing over filters [Re: jayjr1105] #5317772 01/09/20 03:30 PM
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What are doing on an oil filter forum if you don't want to talk about oil filters?

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Re: I think I'm done fussing over filters [Re: brages] #5317777 01/09/20 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by brages
What are doing on an oil filter forum if you don't want to talk about oil filters?


What guy doesn't like to talk cars and parts? This is way more than just an "oil" forum. Tools, cars, electronics, etc.


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Re: I think I'm done fussing over filters [Re: jayjr1105] #5317781 01/09/20 03:42 PM
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Agreed. I'm thinking about just running Proselects or Pro-tecs on everything


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Re: I think I'm done fussing over filters [Re: RazorsEdge] #5317787 01/09/20 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by RazorsEdge
The reality is, pick a oil filter and be done with it.

Some on this forum analyze things too far, life is too short for worrying about oil filters.

cheers


Mods ... Please delete the Engine Oil Filter forum.
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Re: I think I'm done fussing over filters [Re: jayjr1105] #5317788 01/09/20 03:46 PM
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Got cold startup ticks and rattles? Swap that expensive high efficiency oil filter out with a basic filter.

You're welcome....


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Re: I think I'm done fussing over filters [Re: LeakySeals] #5317798 01/09/20 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by LeakySeals
Got cold startup ticks and rattles? Swap that expensive high efficiency oil filter out with a basic filter.

You're welcome....

He never indicated he had "cold startup ticks and rattles", where did you get that idea?

And he's running Fram COR6607 filters, you have anything that shows these are flow restrictive? I also don't think that $1.90 qualifies as "expensive."


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Re: I think I'm done fussing over filters [Re: LeakySeals] #5317799 01/09/20 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by LeakySeals
Got cold startup ticks and rattles? Swap that expensive high efficiency oil filter out with a basic filter.

You're welcome....


No real correlation. If someone gets cold start-up noise it's a leaky ADBV, not because of the filter efficiency. Besides, the positive displacement oil pump ensures proper flow.

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Originally Posted by jayjr1105
I grabbed a couple 6607 Fram Core's for $1.90 each from a large box. I wish I would have bought the whole box. All I ever see on these forums is people cutting open paper endcap filters and they are perfectly fine.

The Fram COR6607 has metal end caps, doesn't it?


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Re: I think I'm done fussing over filters [Re: ZeeOSix] #5317816 01/09/20 04:10 PM
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Got cold startup ticks and rattles? Swap that expensive high efficiency oil filter out with a basic filter.

You're welcome....


No real correlation. If someone gets cold start-up noise it's a leaky ADBV, not because of the filter efficiency. Besides, the positive displacement oil pump ensures proper flow.


I brushed off high efficiency filters as a cause too at first. But one day I decided to hot swap a Fram Ultra with a ACDelco and "piston slap" was gone in the 6.0 LQ9. Has never returned. Eliminated vvt rattle in my 02 Camry switching to a regular EG. The Classic in my sig sounds better at startup too. Worth a try for those that cringe at startup.


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