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Good all season tire with above avg snow traction #5304466 12/26/19 08:50 AM
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Without breaking the bank I'd like to look at some good all season tires with emphasis on better than average snow traction.

Call me crazy but I look through tirebuyer.com and tirerack.com and choose the tire size and choose all season and then I judge the tire by it's tread appearance. For instance right now I have my eyes set on Uniroyal Tiger Paw's simply because I like the way the treads look and they are rated well and they're cheap...

https://www.tirebuyer.com/tires/Tiger%20Paw%20GTZ%20A/S%202/p/TV130000552

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Re: Good all season tire with above avg snow traction [Re: jayjr1105] #5304472 12/26/19 09:03 AM
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A leading consumer magazine rated this tire just above Ironman, GT, and Sumitomo. As in... 4th from the bottom.

If you're looking for snow traction, it would be better to get out of the "Ultra High Performance" category of tires, if your sizing and speed ratings allow.


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Re: Good all season tire with above avg snow traction [Re: jayjr1105] #5304479 12/26/19 09:08 AM
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I look at TireRack reviews, too (not familiar with tirebuyer), but we also get Consumer Reports and I look closely at their tire reviews.
CR evaluates winter performance for all season tires and they led me to the General Altimax RT43 (T rated), which proved to be a good choice for New England winters on my wife's Avalon and my daughter's Impreza.
I had to swap cars with my daughter for a few days to get some maintenance done and a nasty snow squall blew up right when I drove down to her school...I was really impressed with how that little car behaved in some bad conditions, even some SUVs that I assumed to be AWD were stuck on hills in her college town and I walked right by them. Yes, maybe I should have stopped to help, but I had a 1.5 hour drive to get back home...sorry.


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Re: Good all season tire with above avg snow traction [Re: jayjr1105] #5304485 12/26/19 09:19 AM
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There are several sub-brands of "tiger paw". Those, as stated, are summer UHP.

You want squiggly sipes for winter traction. I bet if you touched that tire in person the rubber would be harder to deflect as well.

Keep looking.

Re: Good all season tire with above avg snow traction [Re: eljefino] #5304487 12/26/19 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by eljefino
There are several sub-brands of "tiger paw". Those, as stated, are summer UHP.

You want squiggly sipes for winter traction. I bet if you touched that tire in person the rubber would be harder to deflect as well.

Keep looking.


Those are pretty deep/wide channels for a "summer" tire. Just because it's W rated doesn't mean it can't do alright in the snow correct?


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Re: Good all season tire with above avg snow traction [Re: jayjr1105] #5304490 12/26/19 09:22 AM
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You're gonna have to spend a little more to get everything you want.

I ran the old Continental DWS on my 06 Civic Si back in the day. Loved them and ran them year round in MN. Believe the are now DWS06


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Re: Good all season tire with above avg snow traction [Re: jayjr1105] #5304503 12/26/19 09:38 AM
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Find a Vredstein or Nokian. They have all seasons favoring snow and wet weather.


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Re: Good all season tire with above avg snow traction [Re: eljefino] #5304521 12/26/19 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by eljefino
You want squiggly sipes for winter traction.


Like on the garbage Michelin LTX tires that I had, which had very little wet, snow, or ice traction?

Sorry... sometimes the squiggly sipes don't matter at all.


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Re: Good all season tire with above avg snow traction [Re: jayjr1105] #5304530 12/26/19 10:05 AM
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I'd suggest to go to a local reputable tire dealer. Ask them what they suggest. A dealer wants repeat business. They want you to be satisfied.

Reviews are always a little suspect regardless of whether they are super high or super low. I quit trusting reviews after I learned of "Fakespot.com"


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Re: Good all season tire with above avg snow traction [Re: mrsilv04] #5304541 12/26/19 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by mrsilv04
Originally Posted by eljefino
You want squiggly sipes for winter traction.


Like on the garbage Michelin LTX tires that I had, which had very little wet, snow, or ice traction?

Sorry... sometimes the squiggly sipes don't matter at all.


Just as note: any all season tire, particularly PASSENGER CAR tires with limited tread depth are going to struggle in snowy conditions - it’s why “chains required” is a thing. Sipes help, but they aren’t going to solve your “all season tire in the super nasty slick frozen road ice mess” problems. If sipes didn’t work then snow tires would look a LOT different - ever look at a Nokian Hakkapeliitta? Sipes up the wazoo.

Even AT truck tires with lots of useless decorative sidewall rubber and deep treads will struggle in slick snow and ice, and let’s not even start on “rain” performance.

Everything is a compromise. Conditions vary and where one person sees success another sees failure.


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Re: Good all season tire with above avg snow traction [Re: jayjr1105] #5304553 12/26/19 10:33 AM
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I've always have read that Pirelli P4 FourSeasons Plus have good tread for winter as well as summer....

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Originally Posted by Jackson_Slugger
I've always have read that Pirelli P4 FourSeasons Plus have good tread for winter as well as summer....


Those have been great on my Elantra. I will buy them again.


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Re: Good all season tire with above avg snow traction [Re: jayjr1105] #5304570 12/26/19 10:50 AM
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The link above has possibly the best choice.


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Re: Good all season tire with above avg snow traction [Re: jayjr1105] #5304574 12/26/19 10:51 AM
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Get a 3-peak all-season tire "all weather" tire smile

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