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Re: 10,000mi OCI for a 2020 4Runner? [Re: BucDan] #5297218 12/17/19 07:44 PM
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Unless 0W40 appears in the new 4Runners owners manual viscosity chart, I would not use it for the duration of the vehicle warranty.


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Re: 10,000mi OCI for a 2020 4Runner? [Re: BucDan] #5297328 12/17/19 09:43 PM
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This engine runs well on anything I put in it.
Dealer,0w20
Mobil 1 0w40
Havoline DS Pro 10w30.

The owners manual specifically states you can run a higher grade. Bit to be pragmatic, if that is the type of service it sees I wouldn’t have any problem just sticking to 0w20 or higher ILSAC oils For 5 k intervalsand enjoying the reliable, so,I’d vehicle with that amazing Panasonic battery.

I recommend just doing 5 k OCI,s let the dealer due the 10 k changes until done.
After the first oil change I don’t bother changing the filter on the 6 month/5k changes.


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Re: 10,000mi OCI for a 2020 4Runner? [Re: CharlieBauer] #5297381 12/17/19 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by CharlieBauer
15 minutes in San Diego will be enough to warm things up.

Once a year oil changes will be absolutely ok and required for warranty. Since you'll be nowhere near 10k miles, it will be conservative.

It's a new Toyota and you're in a nice climate. You've paid for peace of mind so enjoy it!

Agree with Charlie. Dump factory fill at 5k then go another 5k. After that just do the Toyota recommended 10k mile oci's. Just take the vehicle out for a half decent run on weekends to offset the short trips and yes stick with the 0w20, it's good oil. After the freebie oil changes are finished I would use Mobil 1 EP 0w20 and stay with 10k oci. Nice ride by the way.

Re: 10,000mi OCI for a 2020 4Runner? [Re: BucDan] #5297467 12/18/19 01:00 AM
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FYI

The 5.7 L V8 Tundra is speced to use 0W20 while towing two 4Runners shocked2

imho, if you want to steer away from 0W20, you will need to use a very good xW30 for example.
I am not a thinnie, however I will take most 0W20's over cheap 5W30's.
Maybe try a 0W30 or a good 5W30 or even 10W30 since you live in San Diego!
Much easier to make an inferior oil with 5W and up as oppose to 0W.

Re: 10,000mi OCI for a 2020 4Runner? [Re: Mad_Hatter] #5297470 12/18/19 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Mad_Hatter
Is the cost of a basic UOA at 5k miles prohibitive? Get some data then base your decision off it.. you may find that 10k mile oci's work just fine for her. Fwiw I'm not a extended drain fanboi but I think your/her situation is unique.



10K OCI isn't an extended drain. The recommended OCI in the 60's was 6K. Technology has evolved a few dozen generations since then.


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Re: 10,000mi OCI for a 2020 4Runner? [Re: BucDan] #5297528 12/18/19 04:40 AM
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Severe service is 5k/6 months. You could change the oil every six months and do the oil and filter every other time. If you do an oil drain and fill without changing the filter it takes an even 6 quarts vs 6.6 quarts to change the oil and filter. Dropping the oil every 6 months and putting 6 quarts back in is easy enough because there is an access panel for the oil drain plug. Changing the filter is a pain on these.
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Re: 10,000mi OCI for a 2020 4Runner? [Re: BucDan] #5297572 12/18/19 06:33 AM
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Seems to me that nothing the OP put on constitutes severe driving under what Toyota says. Otherwise, I would stick to a once a year oil change. You may be able to get your 2 free oil changes that way.


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Re: 10,000mi OCI for a 2020 4Runner? [Re: BucDan] #5297577 12/18/19 06:40 AM
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Stick to once a year changes or 10000 miles and 0w/20. You might as well leave the factory fill in there for at least 3000 miles.

Its worth a note that those that change the oil frequently don't hold onto the vehicle long and those that extend the intervals keep them forever.


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Re: 10,000mi OCI for a 2020 4Runner? [Re: Amkeer] #5297580 12/18/19 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Amkeer
Stick to once a year changes or 10000 miles and 0w/20. You might as well leave the factory fill in there for at least 3000 miles.

Its worth a note that those that change the oil frequently don't hold onto the vehicle long and those that extend the intervals keep them forever.

I change my oil at less than half that interval, in fact in my 32 year old van it averages every 4K miles. I'd consider myself someone who keeps a vehicle forever. My 08 Liberty gets changed every 6K miles, and the 2016 Rubicon every 5K miles. I have no intentions of getting rid of any of them at the moment.


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Re: 10,000mi OCI for a 2020 4Runner? [Re: BucDan] #5297842 12/18/19 10:55 AM
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Going from 0W20 to 0W40 seems like a pretty big jump. Can't think of a reason why 0W40 would be better. I think just leaving it at 0W20 will be best as it'll be seeing the asphalt 95% of the year and maybe the snowy mountains for a weekend. Ideally, I think it would be best to stick to what Toyota recommends to keep it simple, even though they likely picked that weight for EPA reasons. But if it's working, why change it?

I like that idea about the oil filter though, leave the oil filter in for 2 changes, but since I'll be under there already, I know I'll just tell myself "might as well since I'm already down here".

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Re: 10,000mi OCI for a 2020 4Runner? [Re: BucDan] #5297857 12/18/19 11:13 AM
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I have a 2017 4Runner with the 4.0. It is my second vehicle and I drive it in two very different ways. First I do a lot of short tripping where sometimes I don’t even get up to full operating temperatures. Secondly when I travel with it, which is typically every other weekend, I do a minimum of 120 miles but usually it’s around 200 miles. And in all honesty I feel that dumping the oil in this truck at 5k is a not necessary. At one year or 10k , these motors will run a very long time. I had a 2012 4.0 Tacoma which is a slightly different motor but I did 10k oil changes on that with 5w30 EP Mobil 1 for 60k with zero issues. I would change that oil filter every 5k. I know many people that severely mistreated those motors and they still run but to each their own...

Re: 10,000mi OCI for a 2020 4Runner? [Re: BucDan] #5298152 12/18/19 03:49 PM
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Toyota brand 0W20 is a pretty stout oil seen by uoas. My 4.0L in my 15 Tacoma is different from yours and uses 5W30.


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Re: 10,000mi OCI for a 2020 4Runner? [Re: SLO_Town] #5298267 12/18/19 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by SLO_Town
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If it was mine, 1000 miles on 1st dump, then 5,000 mile oci after that.

^This

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+2...this is how i would roll....


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Re: 10,000mi OCI for a 2020 4Runner? [Re: BucDan] #5298277 12/18/19 05:44 PM
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The maintenance schedule through the dealership for our '14 Camry is the first two changes at 8,000km, and after that, every 16,000km. So in your case that raises the question: does cost consideration for the dealership and/or keeping up with the Jones' (competition) outweigh best practice? You won't get a definitive answer on this so go with whatever gives you peace of mind.

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Re: 10,000mi OCI for a 2020 4Runner? [Re: BucDan] #5298385 12/18/19 08:23 PM
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10k oci M1 0w40
Fram ultra every other change

UOAs to prove it works lol

40wt oil is speced for this engine all over the world and the full saps Mobil (and Castrol) products are on the brink of being 30s anyways. Hugely strong add packs and TBN and they both meet the strictest oil specs on the planet.

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