Originally Posted by KrisZ
Originally Posted by Jimmy_Russells
You don't see an advantage to 91 octane becoming the new base fuel? With the price being the same as current 87? I know most people seem to believe current premium fuel prices will become the new base price, but that is not what is being proposed, nor does it make much sense since refineries now make one fuel, and that's it, instead of two or three.
At worst any car that doesn't require it goes on with life as if nothing changes. At best, new engines come out with better efficiency than what is currently possible.
Empty promises that's all I see.
Besides, how would reducing choice and competition reduce fuel prices?
Using this logic, automakers should be mandated to make one vehicle model instead of many, say a mid size SUV, and sell it for the price of a subcompact. Would you accept such a proposal as feasible?.
That's a strawman argument and not the same thing at all. Most places only offer one grade of diesel, what's the difference?
Right now refineries are making two to three versions of gasoline, maybe more in high altitude places. If you cut that down to one you drastically reduce costs and therefore can offer a better price. It's no different than 10-15-20 years ago, airbags, abs, esc, backup cameras, tire pressure monitoring were all optional, additional expenses on a vehicle purchase. Now they are standard equipment required by law and the price to implement for the manufacturer is far, far less.
Originally Posted by Jimmy_Russells
You don't see an advantage to 91 octane becoming the new base fuel? With the price being the same as current 87? I know most people seem to believe current premium fuel prices will become the new base price, but that is not what is being proposed, nor does it make much sense since refineries now make one fuel, and that's it, instead of two or three.
At worst any car that doesn't require it goes on with life as if nothing changes. At best, new engines come out with better efficiency than what is currently possible.
Empty promises that's all I see.
Besides, how would reducing choice and competition reduce fuel prices?
Using this logic, automakers should be mandated to make one vehicle model instead of many, say a mid size SUV, and sell it for the price of a subcompact. Would you accept such a proposal as feasible?.
That's a strawman argument and not the same thing at all. Most places only offer one grade of diesel, what's the difference?
Right now refineries are making two to three versions of gasoline, maybe more in high altitude places. If you cut that down to one you drastically reduce costs and therefore can offer a better price. It's no different than 10-15-20 years ago, airbags, abs, esc, backup cameras, tire pressure monitoring were all optional, additional expenses on a vehicle purchase. Now they are standard equipment required by law and the price to implement for the manufacturer is far, far less.