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Re: Bilstein B6 = Made in Mexico [Re: 007] #5289790 12/09/19 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 007
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“Yes, companies open lines in Mexico etc. because they want to sell low quality products. What they ging to do once product is known for lack of quality? Put a gun to customers head and make them buy it?
As for education of workforce, American southeast is not far ahead, if at al
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If you are going to insult people on their education level you should check your own spelling first.


You seem to spend a lot of time knocking people on their post. Its also obvious that you have a lot of free time considering the number of post you have made compared to others in such a short period of time, just saying. Bye the way check your own spelling and grammar!




Check yours first.

As for post count, why does that bother you. I’m sure you have a high post count as well if you consider all the previous account names you have held.


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Re: Bilstein B6 = Made in Mexico [Re: edyvw] #5289945 12/10/19 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by edyvw

Companies like Bilstein are too small to allow themself to play with quality. Mexico is trendy bcs. several years ago it actually became cheaper to make and transport stuff from Mexico to US than China to US. If Bilstein delivers bad product, then market will respond to that. KYB is get bigger share, SACHS, Gabriel, Monroe, etc. etc.



But surely you realize that at least in terms of commercial vendors today many mfrs will go with the lowest or near lowest bidder for production even with Tier 1 or 2 vendors, that's why increasingly while new cars are very reliable for the first few years as soon as the warranty expires reliability usually starts to tumble now. In the future cars companies are betting on disposable vehicles.

Re: Bilstein B6 = Made in Mexico [Re: nthach] #5289956 12/10/19 12:54 AM
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Either the fronts or rears for my Blazer were Mexican made and the other was US made.

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AFAIK, didn't GM install French-made DeCarbon shocks on the ZR2/Z71-spec S/T and C/K(GMT400) platform SUVs? GM was mighty proud of their DeCarbon shocks in ads for the older trucks and Camaros.

Since Bilstein does count Toyota, GM and VW as customers and TRD-package Tundra/Tacomas as well as higher-spec GMTs come with Bilstein shocks, it would make sense for Krupp Bilstein to make shocks in the US and Mexico.


Those DeCarbon shocks were trash! GM might have well just used the standard Tenneco shocks! However....Some ZR2 & Z71 trucks had Bilstein 4600 shocks from the factory! I did thousands of pre-deliveries in my dealer tech days & the Bilstein Yellow always stuck out versus the DeCarbon Orange & Tenneco Black.


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Re: Bilstein B6 = Made in Mexico [Re: maxdustington] #5289999 12/10/19 04:50 AM
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People said the same things about Japan after WWII about it's culture and manufacturing. Much like Japan China filled a niche until it had enough footing, knowledge, and capability to produce high quality goods.

Short sightedness is never a good strategy.


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Re: Bilstein B6 = Made in Mexico [Re: dave1251] #5290029 12/10/19 06:35 AM
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I like my "Hecho en Mexico" Corona

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Re: Bilstein B6 = Made in Mexico [Re: AC1DD] #5290092 12/10/19 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by AC1DD
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Originally Posted by dlundblad
Either the fronts or rears for my Blazer were Mexican made and the other was US made.

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AFAIK, didn't GM install French-made DeCarbon shocks on the ZR2/Z71-spec S/T and C/K(GMT400) platform SUVs? GM was mighty proud of their DeCarbon shocks in ads for the older trucks and Camaros.

Since Bilstein does count Toyota, GM and VW as customers and TRD-package Tundra/Tacomas as well as higher-spec GMTs come with Bilstein shocks, it would make sense for Krupp Bilstein to make shocks in the US and Mexico.


This is connected to the NAFTA zone agreements most major tier 1 auto parts vendors do the same thing, not that I'm happy about it. Mexico wages are too low and that gives them an unfair advantage to compete, this is why Trump wanted to get rid of NAFTA.


Right because who doesn't want to read another post from someone complaining about having to pay 2x the cost for "US Made" parts. wink


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Re: Bilstein B6 = Made in Mexico [Re: Egg_Head] #5290154 12/10/19 09:10 AM
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I like my "Hecho en Mexico" Corona

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Landshark is better and many times cheaper!

*US made but INBEV brewed IIRC.

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Re: Bilstein B6 = Made in Mexico [Re: AC1DD] #5290196 12/10/19 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by AC1DD
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Companies like Bilstein are too small to allow themself to play with quality. Mexico is trendy bcs. several years ago it actually became cheaper to make and transport stuff from Mexico to US than China to US. If Bilstein delivers bad product, then market will respond to that. KYB is get bigger share, SACHS, Gabriel, Monroe, etc. etc.



But surely you realize that at least in terms of commercial vendors today many mfrs will go with the lowest or near lowest bidder for production even with Tier 1 or 2 vendors, that's why increasingly while new cars are very reliable for the first few years as soon as the warranty expires reliability usually starts to tumble now. In the future cars companies are betting on disposable vehicles.

What that has to do whether vehicles are made in Mexico or US?


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Re: Bilstein B6 = Made in Mexico [Re: The Critic] #5290250 12/10/19 10:50 AM
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Just a FYI, Bilstein is owned by Thyssen Krupp. They are not really a small business anymore. TK is a huge conglomerate out of Germany.


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Re: Bilstein B6 = Made in Mexico [Re: AC1DD] #5290272 12/10/19 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by AC1DD
Originally Posted by edyvw

Companies like Bilstein are too small to allow themself to play with quality. Mexico is trendy bcs. several years ago it actually became cheaper to make and transport stuff from Mexico to US than China to US. If Bilstein delivers bad product, then market will respond to that. KYB is get bigger share, SACHS, Gabriel, Monroe, etc. etc.



But surely you realize that at least in terms of commercial vendors today many mfrs will go with the lowest or near lowest bidder for production even with Tier 1 or 2 vendors, that's why increasingly while new cars are very reliable for the first few years as soon as the warranty expires reliability usually starts to tumble now. In the future cars companies are betting on disposable vehicles.


It is design not assembly that is primarily responsible for durability. Assembly of course impacts QC for cosmetic issues.


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Re: Bilstein B6 = Made in Mexico [Re: PimTac] #5290355 12/10/19 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by PimTac
Just a FYI, Bilstein is owned by Thyssen Krupp. They are not really a small business anymore. TK is a huge conglomerate out of Germany.

One of the primary steel suppliers for Mercedes - but they are known for elevators and escalators in the US.

Re: Bilstein B6 = Made in Mexico [Re: nthach] #5290515 12/10/19 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by nthach
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Just a FYI, Bilstein is owned by Thyssen Krupp. They are not really a small business anymore. TK is a huge conglomerate out of Germany.

One of the primary steel suppliers for Mercedes - but they are known for elevators and escalators in the US.
They use to make Ford's Domestic sports struts and shocks back in the 90's.


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Re: Bilstein B6 = Made in Mexico [Re: nthach] #5290529 12/10/19 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by nthach
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Just a FYI, Bilstein is owned by Thyssen Krupp. They are not really a small business anymore. TK is a huge conglomerate out of Germany.

One of the primary steel suppliers for Mercedes - but they are known for elevators and escalators in the US.




Yep. Otis elevators and escalators are TK.


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Re: Bilstein B6 = Made in Mexico [Re: PimTac] #5290560 12/10/19 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by PimTac
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“Yes, companies open lines in Mexico etc. because they want to sell low quality products. What they ging to do once product is known for lack of quality? Put a gun to customers head and make them buy it?
As for education of workforce, American southeast is not far ahead, if at al
l.“




If you are going to insult people on their education level you should check your own spelling first.


You seem to spend a lot of time knocking people on their post. Its also obvious that you have a lot of free time considering the number of post you have made compared to others in such a short period of time, just saying. Bye the way check your own spelling and grammar!


Check yours first.

As for post count, why does that bother you. I’m sure you have a high post count as well if you consider all the previous account names you have held.


That's funny since I have had only one account on this site that I know of. smile DRAMA

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