Recent Topics
Chery A520 2.0 L Transmisstion Oil
by Omar_Eltahan - 01/20/20 02:38 AM
castrol 5w30 c3 for an LS?
by neo3 - 01/19/20 11:32 PM
Windows 10 Upgrade Guide
by OVERKILL - 01/19/20 09:59 PM
FCA and Foxconn partner on EV's
by OVERKILL - 01/19/20 08:55 PM
IIHS Crash pics of Full Size Trucks
by kstanf150 - 01/19/20 08:15 PM
Are Engine Splash Guards Really Needed?
by Mr_Luke - 01/19/20 08:14 PM
supertec cartridge filters
by super20dan - 01/19/20 06:17 PM
More Valvoline on rollback at WM
by jayjr1105 - 01/19/20 06:13 PM
Crossed poles on jumper cables
by 3Aone - 01/19/20 05:33 PM
Napa Gold 7060 7.5K miles
by KenshinHimura - 01/19/20 05:09 PM
Can you move a car with the starter?
by atikovi - 01/19/20 04:49 PM
Leaf spring advice.
by mpack88 - 01/19/20 02:19 PM
Detroit 4-53T swap update.
by A310 - 01/19/20 12:54 PM
Wiper arm tension...
by Loogie - 01/19/20 12:26 PM
Changing Battery
by Char Baby - 01/19/20 12:16 PM
UOA shelf life
by STIcandy - 01/19/20 12:02 PM
Newest Members
Harry_Seaward, MrH1325, Thetarmac, lbstyling, tanpw
70483 Registered Users
Who's Online Now
40 registered members (77GrandPrix, AZjeff, bmod305, blufeb95, 750IX, 6 invisible), 1,144 guests, and 40 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums67
Topics300,336
Posts5,173,602
Members70,483
Most Online3,825
Jan 19th, 2020
Donate to BITOG
Print Thread
Hop To
Page 1 of 7 1 2 7
Question on Job Interview Etiquette #5289838 12/09/19 08:40 PM
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 1,139
B
bunnspecial Offline OP
OP Offline
B
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 1,139
I'm asking this here since I know I'll get a wide cross section of opinions.

Here's the short answer-I'm basically looking for a job in a different metro area ~250 miles away from where I'm located now so that I can be close to my fiancée(she and I are getting married in October). I'm currently an academic(non-faculty, but with some teaching responsibilities) chemist, and have a skill set that would allow me to either take an academic or industry job. Consequently, I've been applying for both. I should also stress the fact that I currently have a stable, enjoyable, and decently paying job that, under other circumstances, I would not want to leave.

Last Sunday, Dec. 1st, someone sent me a link to a job posting at a large university in the city where I'm looking. The description fit me to a T, and basically IS a carbon copy of the job I have now and have been doing for several years. I submitted my application that night, and received an email the first thing the next morning asking me to schedule a phone interview, preferably for later that day if possible. I shifted things around and carved out a half hour(my would-be lunch break) to speak with them when they wanted, and from my perspective, the phone interview went exceptionally well. They acknowledged the fact that I was essentially a perfect match for the job and that I was exactly what they were looking for, and I also told them my very real and concrete reason why I was looking for that specific job.

Later that afternoon-around 5:00PM my time(1 hour time difference) I had an email asking if I could be there for an interview at 9:00AM on the 3rd(no other options offered). I responded that I was unavailable at that time as I was administering an exam, but was completely open the remainder of the week and all of this week. I even offered that if if the 3rd was the only day available, I could make it there later that afternoon(finish giving my exam and hop on the road for a 4 hour drive) but that was the earliest possible. The response I received was a bit cold, basically saying they needed to get interviews done immediately(understandable) but that they would "think about" whether or not they could work me in at a later time.

I followed up this past Friday, the 5th, with a simple "I just wanted to touch base" and again reiterated my availability at any time the following week(this week) but have not heard anything else.

I'm guessing that I blew that opportunity(although I haven't received a rejection), but I'm kind of beating myself up over how things played out with it. For one thing, I've been to several interviews over the past couple of months, and I've always been given a choice of times. Second of all, I'm bothered that I was basically dismissed for doing what in my mind was the right thing by honoring previously existing commitments. Given that this job would have also involved teaching, and I was speaking to the department chair, I would especially think that they would understand(I wonder how the chair would feel about one of his current employees backing out of giving an exam with that little notice).

From the collective BITOG wisdom, is there anything I should have done differently in this?


2010 Lincoln MKZ-Mobil 1 5W-30
1970 MG MGB Roadster-Valvoline VR-1 20W-50
1974 Austin Marina GT VR-1 20W-50
Re: Question on Job Interview Etiquette [Re: bunnspecial] #5289844 12/09/19 08:48 PM
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 2,974
B
buck91 Offline
Offline
B
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 2,974
Seems odd they would dismiss you for that, maybe its better this way.


2011 F150 4x4 5.0L
1996 Mustang GT 5spd/ragtop
Re: Question on Job Interview Etiquette [Re: bunnspecial] #5289846 12/09/19 08:51 PM
Joined: Apr 2018
Posts: 1,428
I
Imp4 Online Content
Online Content
I
Joined: Apr 2018
Posts: 1,428
It sounds like you did the right thing.
You were honest, transparent, and you proposed a variety of alternate meeting times.
This seems like a professional and straightforward approach.


2001 Mitsubishi Galant 2.4 - 165k+
Grandma's creampuff...
Re: Question on Job Interview Etiquette [Re: bunnspecial] #5289847 12/09/19 08:51 PM
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 4,494
AZjeff Online Content
Online Content
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 4,494
Quote
From the collective BITOG wisdom, is there anything I should have done differently in this?


No. A department chair who doesn't recognize your commitment to your position and/or thinks his schedule more important might not be pleasant to work for. It sounds like your moral compass is working fine.


86 Samurai 1.3 leftovers
14 RAV4 2.5 5W-20 PP
18 Nissan Titan 5.6 DI, QSUD

The most important thing to do in your life is to not interfere with someone else's life. - Frank Zappa

Re: Question on Job Interview Etiquette [Re: bunnspecial] #5289850 12/09/19 08:52 PM
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 5,851
JohnnyJohnson Offline
Offline
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 5,851
You never know but some of these jobs are advertised and they already know who they are going to hire they just make sure it appears they are following an acceptable process. Be patient.


2004 Corolla 138348
Out: Havoline Pro DS 10w-30 Purolator PureOne 10-29-19 136457
In: Pennzoil Platinum HM 5W-20 ST 4386
2006 Duramax 77060
Out: T6 5W-40 XG9100 73909
In: Rotella Dino PH9100 11-3-19
Re: Question on Job Interview Etiquette [Re: bunnspecial] #5289854 12/09/19 08:56 PM
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 10,858
S
spasm3 Offline
Offline
S
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 10,858
I see nothing you should have done different.

I interview people on a fairly regular basis. Different market but still, some things still apply. If an applicant is working and can't meet a time, i understand. If I know they call out to do the interview I do have to wonder if they will honor their commitments to me.

If they expected you to drop everything to make their interview, they have little respect for prior commitments and you are better off.

I should also say, there are a lot of people who don't conduct an interview well, they really don't know how to vet out a candidate.

Last edited by spasm3; 12/09/19 08:58 PM.

13 elantra 81k 5w30 synpwr
03 chevy avalanche 83k synpwr 5w30
17 mazda cx-5 17000 miles synpwr 5w30
Re: Question on Job Interview Etiquette [Re: bunnspecial] #5289856 12/09/19 08:58 PM
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 23,627
D
Donald Offline
Offline
D
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 23,627
Its end of the year. People are out. You may have talked to recruiter and the actual hiring manager is out. There are a million reasons why they can be slow to respond. They may wait for 2 weeks (example) and then review resumes and then interview the top few.

I found a job that I thought I would be perfect for. I did super on in-person interview and they told me they learned a lot from me and the things I said during the interview.

I did not get the job as they concluded they only needed someone to do basic admin for the mainframe security as they wanted to sunset the mainframe in 2 to 3 years. I had too much knowledge and experience. I would not want the job they ended up figuring out they needed. But they started with a different job description.


2015 Ford F-250 w/Powerstroke
2016 Subaru Crosstrek CVT (wife's)
Re: Question on Job Interview Etiquette [Re: bunnspecial] #5289858 12/09/19 08:59 PM
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 55
K
Kansas_Ron Offline
Offline
K
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 55
Where I work when it is time for interviews a panel of 4 to 5 set in to ask questions and rate the applicants. You will have a diverse group comprised of males, females and minorities. Interviews are typically held on the same day with the interview panel scoring the applicants after their interviews. Hiring is a very structured thing which has to be coordinated with the personnel office and the department with the position to be filled. So asking for a day and time which works for you would be viewed as an unreasonable request.


2000 Chevy Prizm
2015 Honda Civic
2017 Hyundai Elantra
Re: Question on Job Interview Etiquette [Re: bunnspecial] #5289859 12/09/19 09:00 PM
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 1,139
B
bunnspecial Offline OP
OP Offline
B
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 1,139
Thanks guys!

I agree that if the chair is this...inflexible...during the interview process it might not bode well for a long term future there.

Quote
You never know but some of these jobs are advertised and they already know who they are going to hire they just make sure it appears they are following an acceptable process. Be patient.


I had considered that, especially given that I've been on the beneficial end of that situation before.

With that said, there were a couple of things said in the phone interview that made me think I was the first person they'd even spoken with regarding this job, although it also could have been that they had one application and needed a second to even have any sort of review.

They also could have easily dismissed me as "overqualified" and not even called me for the phone interview as the position requires a BS and I have an MS and I have about 3x the experience listed in the "preferred qualifications."


2010 Lincoln MKZ-Mobil 1 5W-30
1970 MG MGB Roadster-Valvoline VR-1 20W-50
1974 Austin Marina GT VR-1 20W-50
Re: Question on Job Interview Etiquette [Re: Kansas_Ron] #5289863 12/09/19 09:04 PM
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 1,139
B
bunnspecial Offline OP
OP Offline
B
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 1,139
Originally Posted by Kansas_Ron
Where I work when it is time for interviews a panel of 4 to 5 set in to ask questions and rate the applicants. You will have a diverse group comprised of males, females and minorities. Interviews are typically held on the same day with the interview panel scoring the applicants after their interviews. Hiring is a very structured thing which has to be coordinated with the personnel office and the department with the position to be filled. So asking for a day and time which works for you would be viewed as an unreasonable request.


I can understand that, but at the same time what is your typical lead time for scheduling an interview? Would you typically schedule one with less than 48 hours lead time, as happened in this case?


2010 Lincoln MKZ-Mobil 1 5W-30
1970 MG MGB Roadster-Valvoline VR-1 20W-50
1974 Austin Marina GT VR-1 20W-50
Re: Question on Job Interview Etiquette [Re: Donald] #5289864 12/09/19 09:05 PM
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 1,139
B
bunnspecial Offline OP
OP Offline
B
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 1,139
Originally Posted by Donald
Its end of the year. People are out. You may have talked to recruiter and the actual hiring manager is out.


All of my correspondence was with the department chair, who would have been my direct supervisor had I been hired.


2010 Lincoln MKZ-Mobil 1 5W-30
1970 MG MGB Roadster-Valvoline VR-1 20W-50
1974 Austin Marina GT VR-1 20W-50
Re: Question on Job Interview Etiquette [Re: buck91] #5289866 12/09/19 09:07 PM
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 3,500
L
Lolvoguy Offline
Offline
L
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 3,500
Originally Posted by buck91
Seems odd they would dismiss you for that, maybe its better this way.

Words of wisdom.

I'm also currently in the same position where I'm applying to several jobs.
A few I've been rejected from for whatever reason.
The one I'm closing in on, is far better (location, time off, benefits etc ) than any of the others I was overthinking.

I can honestly say, sometimes things just work out for the best in ways you couldn't imagine.


06 Lexus IS350- Wife
88 BMW 325is- Mistress
Say "no" to Turbo!
Re: Question on Job Interview Etiquette [Re: bunnspecial] #5289880 12/09/19 09:24 PM
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,963
G
Greggy_D Offline
Offline
G
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,963
You didn't do anything wrong, OP. In fact, nearly the same scenario played out for me the week before Thanksgiving.

I applied for a position that mimics my background at a different company at 9pm on a Wednesday. At noon the next day, they called my cell but I couldn't answer due to attending meetings all day. The gentleman left a message saying he wanted to know what I what I was looking to do and to also set up a formal interview. I called back the next morning (Friday) at 10am and left a message indicating I was in the middle of a release the entire day, however I was available all day Monday to talk.

No return call on Monday. I called again Tuesday morning and left various times I was available to talk. They never called back.

I'm going to try calling a third and final time tomorrow. It's dumbfounding that they called me 15 hours after I applied, but then proceeded to ghost me the very next day.


Greggy D.

Re: Question on Job Interview Etiquette [Re: Kansas_Ron] #5289889 12/09/19 09:39 PM
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 6,238
blupupher Offline
Offline
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 6,238
I agree with the others, you did the right thing being committed to your current position.
I actually had an interview today, they asked me Friday if I could make it. I happened to be off work, so I had no issue with it.
If I could not have made it, the manager said she had other dates, but wanted to try today.

Originally Posted by Kansas_Ron
Where I work when it is time for interviews a panel of 4 to 5 set in to ask questions and rate the applicants. You will have a diverse group comprised of males, females and minorities. Interviews are typically held on the same day with the interview panel scoring the applicants after their interviews. Hiring is a very structured thing which has to be coordinated with the personnel office and the department with the position to be filled. So asking for a day and time which works for you would be viewed as an unreasonable request.

Yes, but setting up only 1 time on short notice, well, you are not going to get many interviews of qualified (ie already employed) candidates.
Application on day 1, phone interview on day 2, and day 3 give only one option to meet in person. Not a reasonable application process, and not a place I would want to work. I know getting panels together is not easy, but that is part of the interview process.


'18 Santa Fe: PP 10W-30/OEM
'18 Soul: Synpower 5W-30/PG
'10 Santa Fe: Synpower 5w-30/D+
'04 F150: Magnatec 10w-30/ST
'12 xB: M1EP 0W-20/CQ Blue
'02 F150: Magnatec 5W-20/D+
'94 VT1100: Peak 15W-40/D+
Re: Question on Job Interview Etiquette [Re: bunnspecial] #5289904 12/09/19 09:57 PM
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 3,389
M
Mad_Hatter Offline
Offline
M
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 3,389
Nothing you did wrong..it is what it is. They have a right to interview on their schedule and you have a right to honour your commitments with your current employer. To me keeping your current employer as a good reference is more important. For all you know you could have ditched your job responsibilities that afternoon, potentially [censored] your current employer off in the process, and never got that new job...then where would you be?

Last edited by Mad_Hatter; 12/09/19 09:58 PM.
Page 1 of 7 1 2 7
Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread

BOB IS THE OIL GUY® Powered by UBB.threads™