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Michelin Defender on Civic #5287213 12/06/19 08:14 PM
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What do you think about these tires on a 2017 Civic Coupe?

The best tires I've ever owned were Michelin Harmony, also on a Civic Coupe (2000). They lasted 100,000 miles.

I don't care a lick about ride quality or snow, etc. (I live in Florida). All I care about is the longevity of the tires and if I can expect these to hold up as good as the Harmonys.

People have told me these are "van tires" or some such (same with the Harmonys). I'm not interested in driving fast or looking cool. So if they're something for a van, well OK.

I've been through the factory Dunlops on a 2000 and they were junk. I have the factory Firestones on the 2017 and they're much better tires, but I'm going to replace them soon and I've always had good experience with Michelin.

What do you think?

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I have a set on a 1998 Accord V6. Tires have about 30K miles on it. From the looks of it, I might get 60-70K miles from the tires before needing replacement. I work in Washington DC. 20 miles of freeway and 15 miles of city traffic, one way.

Grip is not very good on wet roads. On a car that serves as a basic point a to b commuter car, I cant complain. They are quiet tires IMO.


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Re: Michelin Defender on Civic [Re: jharrison] #5287231 12/06/19 08:38 PM
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What is your tire size? smile

consider the Vredestein Ultrac Satin

Re: Michelin Defender on Civic [Re: jharrison] #5287238 12/06/19 08:45 PM
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215/55R16 or 215/50R17?
Harmonies were an amazing tire, The defender t+h Also it is a very good tire And I’d recommend it


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Re: Michelin Defender on Civic [Re: jharrison] #5287239 12/06/19 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by jharrison
What do you think about these tires on a 2017 Civic Coupe?

The best tires I've ever owned were Michelin Harmony, also on a Civic Coupe (2000). They lasted 100,000 miles.

I don't care a lick about ride quality or snow, etc. (I live in Florida). All I care about is the longevity of the tires and if I can expect these to hold up as good as the Harmonys.

People have told me these are "van tires" or some such (same with the Harmonys). I'm not interested in driving fast or looking cool. So if they're something for a van, well OK.

I've been through the factory Dunlops on a 2000 and they were junk. I have the factory Firestones on the 2017 and they're much better tires, but I'm going to replace them soon and I've always had good experience with Michelin.

What do you think?



I'm guessing you have 16" wheels, right? If so, The defender isn't available in 215/55r16. Why don't you look at the Premier A/S if you insist on Michelin


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Re: Michelin Defender on Civic [Re: jharrison] #5287248 12/06/19 08:54 PM
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Pirelli P7+ are worth a look.


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Re: Michelin Defender on Civic [Re: jharrison] #5287251 12/06/19 08:59 PM
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I hmmm and hawed about getting the michelin harmonys and cheaped out and got the Hankook Optimo H727. Was not disappointing. Wet and dry was close to the original michelins on the van and they lasted about 70-80K miles on a van known the eat tires.
replaced them with another set before selling it.

New sienna has General RT43 they are hitting 50K miles and still look good on the treads. I think they are just ad good as the michelins they replaced and quieter than the hankooks.

both are bargin tires.

Re: Michelin Defender on Civic [Re: jharrison] #5287275 12/06/19 09:31 PM
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I'm guessing you have 16" wheels, right? If so, The defender isn't available in 215/55r16. Why don't you look at the Premier A/S if you insist on Michelin


I do have 16" wheels and both TireRack and Tire Kingdom show these as available for 16"...?

That said, I'm not married to the Defender and would consider the Premier A/S if it has similar longevity to the Harmonys.

This is for a point A-to-B commuter car that I intend to keep until it falls apart.

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Re: Michelin Defender on Civic [Re: jharrison] #5287276 12/06/19 09:32 PM
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I have a set of Defenders on my 2010 Civic and like them a lot. Smooth and quiet ride. They are rated for 80k miles.


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Re: Michelin Defender on Civic [Re: jharrison] #5287277 12/06/19 09:35 PM
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I would very much recommend the Michelin Defenders. I currently have 65000 on mine on my civic with at least another 15 to go. They offer good all season traction, are quiet and balance up good. I cannot recommend my previous tires, Michelin Premier because of their poor tread life. Mine lasted 40,000 before they were pro rated out by discount tire.

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I don't mind forking out the $170 for the Defenders, but why is the cost so much more than the Harmonies? I don't remember spending that much for a tire, but I bought those around 2002 so maybe I don't remember what I spent.

I think the Harmonies were like $110 each at the time. I was a kid in the army at the time and I don't think I bought $170.00 tires. Maybe I did - I just don't recall.

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I'm guessing you have 16" wheels, right? If so, The defender isn't available in 215/55r16. Why don't you look at the Premier A/S if you insist on Michelin


I do have 16" wheels and both TireRack and Tire Kingdom show these as available for 16"...?

That said, I'm not married to the Defender and would consider the Premier A/S if it has similar longevity to the Harmonys.

This is for a point A-to-B commuter car that I intend to keep until it falls apart.


It's the Truck version, that for some reason is available in 215/55r16, the Defender LTX, not the car version, which you're probably looking it.


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According to the Consumer reports ratings, for your 215-55R16 size, your best value is:

Yokohama Avid Ascend (t) 100K projected mileage, very good dry , good wet braking, very good hydroplaining $91

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I'm not looking for a bargain. I want to throw a bunch of money on new tires. Maybe that's a very naive position to take but it served me well with previous Michelins. The Harmonys were absolutely **phenomenal tires**. They don't make them anymore. I'm trying to understand if the defenders (their replacement) are their equals.

I got 100K miles off those Harmonies. That's what I'm looking for. AFIAK, the Michelin Harmonies were the best tires ever made. I've had the sporty Dunlops (Direzza star-spec, AKA Dunflop Diarrhea) and Potenzas on my Del Sol and they don't make it past 20K miles, if that. Yeah, I understand they're "summer tires", but still.

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Re: Michelin Defender on Civic [Re: jharrison] #5287360 12/07/19 12:28 AM
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If you want sporty but "long" life for a performance tire, take a look at the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3+.

The last generation of the Defender series was plagued with short life. Supposedly this issue was fixed with the Defender T+H and X Tour A/S(which is the Costco/Sam's/BJ's version).

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