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Re: Visom and GTL Question [Re: kschachn] #5286343 12/05/19 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by kschachn
Product specifications, certifications and approvals are what matter. It is the only real-world method of determining oil quality, anything else is trying to read the tea leaves of a PDS or VOA/UOA or someone's useless interpretation of them. Which is more relevant, that an oil has proven to pass the requirements for Mercedes Benz approval 229.5 or someone on here proclaiming "fantastic oil, look at that slug of moly"?



thumbsup cheers

Re: Visom and GTL Question [Re: buster] #5286351 12/05/19 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Bryanccfshr
ultimately performance differences between grp III+,gtl and PAO have not been demonstrated as mentionable.

We are fortunate to live in a time where seriously high performing engine oils are a widely available and affordable commodity.


Exactly.



I agree buster... Bryanccfshr post was spot on.


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Re: Visom and GTL Question [Re: kschachn] #5286586 12/06/19 03:14 AM
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Was meaning this type of bench test

https://www.kyowa-ei.com/eng/product/sector/automobile/application_003.html

Basically when over the road tests get debated here folks say not enough data acquisition control … or consistent like for like testing.
Then a bench test tear down comes up and we hear ”it’s not real world”
As you know oil companies do both along with extensive lab testing.

Re: Visom and GTL Question [Re: 4WD] #5286606 12/06/19 05:36 AM
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It's just loyal brand huggers who can't fathom their favorite lable is not the "best"who retort every test.


make the inside of your engine oil cap white.
don't use.
Re: Visom and GTL Question [Re: Doublehaul] #5286708 12/06/19 08:53 AM
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Dunno...I’m a Mobil 1 user and I honestly feel their marketing tear downs are totally and completely useless as are their taxi tests. I still feel they make great oil...

Like I said earlier...give me a 10 year test in a short tripped car with low oil and a bad egr...heck let’s make it a Chrysler and really make it interesting! Maybe a college girls car she got from her 3k per year great aunt


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2019 Toyota Tacoma 4x4 TRD*

Mobil 1 0w40


The specs on the back are more important than the label on the front
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