2006 Silverado 4.8 UOA Peak 5w30

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Originally Posted by dave1251
Originally Posted by RDY4WAR
I also wouldn't put MoS2 in any of my vehicles, but not because of fear of sulfur. The oil I have in my 2002 Tahoe 5.3L is 1.85% sulfated ash (>3x the API limit) and my copper wear at 10k mile OCI is
I'd also like to note that the metal shown here is realistically about 20% higher than what is shown there. Blackstone is pretty notorious for reading low. I communicate with several blenders and formulators, all of which conduct periodic quality checks on their batches, and none of them use Blackstone for that reason.



I don't agree it's real easy to lookup and compare. There can be up to around 10% variance between Wearcheck Blackstone, WIX, CAT. Not 20% you have a habit of writing well written and thoughtful posts often there is a tidbit of inaccurate information.


I'm not talking about the10% margin of error. I'm talking about Blackstone commonly being down 20% compared to everywhere else.

For example, here's PQIA's results of this same oil.

http://www.pqiadata.org/Peak5W30.html



Likely different batches thus this comparison is invalid. Also I did not state margin of error I stated variance.


Variance= the fact or quality of being different, divergent, or inconsistent.

Margin of error= amount that is allowed for in case of miscalculation or change of circumstance.

Take a sample and send it to 4 labs and all 4 will have different interpretations. Plus "blenders" don't have access to their own test equipment and data. The "blender" needs to rely on a 3rd party for a QC check on a product which could already be in use. That has disaster waiting to happen all over it.
 
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Likely different batches thus this comparison is invalid. Also I did not state margin of error I stated variance.


Variance= the fact or quality of being different, divergent, or inconsistent.

Margin of error= amount that is allowed for in case of miscalculation or change of circumstance.

Take a sample and send it to 4 labs and all 4 will have different interpretations. Plus "blenders" don't have access to their own test equipment and data. The "blender" needs to rely on a 3rd party for a QC check on a product which could already be in use. That has disaster waiting to happen all over it.


Yes, most blenders use 3rd party for QC, but not all. High Performance Lubricants, for example, has all of their test equipment in house with retain of every batch they produce.

I don't feel like there's that much variance from one batch to another. This isn't a single event. Blackstone has been repeatedly lower than other labs.

Another example from just earlier this year.

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/5172640/jgr-driven-ls-30-5w-30

Driven does QC on every batch and it never varies more than 5%. They are very strict about that.

Here's another absurd Blackstone report vs PQIA. Batches don't vary that much.

https://s225.photobucket.com/user/btanchors/media/Mobil1_AP_zpsbicytlpv.png.html

http://www.pqiadata.org/Mobil1_Annual_Protection_5W30.html

There's plenty of other examples of Blackstone numbers coming out low. Many of them show P levels below the API 600 ppm limit which we know isn't accurate for an API SN/SN+ rated oil. They wouldn't get the starburst if it was.
 
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