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Re: Honda OEM starter vs aftermarket??? [Re: Garyd] #5285638 12/05/19 07:25 AM
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The K24 starter R&R is involved for those not familiar with the process.
I understand the Element is easier because you can access it from below.
I just had the starter replaced on our beloved 2006 TSX at 190K; I think it was about $600.
They used a Nippondenso reman which is what I would have used if I did the work.

Our friend The Critic might chime in as he is familiar with the process.
Good luck.


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Re: Honda OEM starter vs aftermarket??? [Re: Garyd] #5285677 12/05/19 08:04 AM
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Every vehicle I've had has needed a starter - except the Subaru. Every single time I bought a Napa starter thinking it was better because it's "premium" and I have always had issues with them grinding the flywheel on the first attempt to crank. I'm running cheap Advance ones and have had a bit better luck with those.


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Re: Honda OEM starter vs aftermarket??? [Re: Miller88] #5285680 12/05/19 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Miller88
Every vehicle I've had has needed a starter - except the Subaru. Every single time I bought a Napa starter thinking it was better because it's "premium" and I have always had issues with them grinding the flywheel on the first attempt to crank. I'm running cheap Advance ones and have had a bit better luck with those.

Napa's rebuilt starters and alternators are absolute garbage! No shop here will use one as it's a guaranteed comeback. The AutoZone and O'Riley's ones are better than Napa's junk.


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Re: Honda OEM starter vs aftermarket??? [Re: Garyd] #5285748 12/05/19 09:16 AM
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You might want to search your local area for a shop that rebuilds alternators and starters, use to be a real common thing but maybe they are all disappearing like all the old Mom and Pop chroming shops.

Re: Honda OEM starter vs aftermarket??? [Re: Garyd] #5285751 12/05/19 09:21 AM
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If you trust the brand name Bosch, www.carid.com has a Bosch reman for $149. At all costs, you should avoid anything remanufactured by Cardone.


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Re: Honda OEM starter vs aftermarket??? [Re: ctechbob] #5285813 12/05/19 10:19 AM
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ctechbob, like you I did it that way on my 08 Accord last month. Bought https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00T9ORWIG/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Rebuilt my old starter with an ebay brush for spare. I don't mind putting my old rebuilt starter back in. The new starter from Amazon is 1 year hassle free warranty.

Op, go this route to save $$. I assume you're looking to save money.


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Re: Honda OEM starter vs aftermarket??? [Re: 1foxracing] #5285885 12/05/19 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by 1foxracing
You might want to search your local area for a shop that rebuilds alternators and starters, use to be a real common thing but maybe they are all disappearing like all the old Mom and Pop chroming shops.


^ yeah, this is what I was thinking

Re: Honda OEM starter vs aftermarket??? [Re: Garyd] #5285896 12/05/19 11:57 AM
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I'll be the guy that has used the cheapest new starters off of amazon or ebay as long as the reviews were decent. I've had no problems and all are going strong and some were replaced years ago.


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Re: Honda OEM starter vs aftermarket??? [Re: nwjones18] #5285898 12/05/19 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by nwjones18
I'll be the guy that has used the cheapest new starters off of amazon or ebay as long as the reviews were decent. I've had no problems and all are going strong and some were replaced years ago.

The issue with the K24 engine is the difficulty (cost) to swap a starter out.
You don't wanna do this twice.
I was reluctant to use a top of the line reman, but so far so good.


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Re: Honda OEM starter vs aftermarket??? [Re: Chris142] #5285908 12/05/19 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris142
The AutoZone and O'Riley's ones are better than Napa's junk.

They are all "remanufactured" by BBB Industries or Remy in Mexico. Almost all the bits and pieces inside a chain store or even AC Delco non-GM OEM level reman come from WAI/Transpo from China.

In that case, the lifetime warranty on a Duralast or O'Reilly Optima Select is barely worth the trouble. Denso does their own remans, but only on their units. Supposedly, they rebuild them in Murrietta or Temecula, CA. Bosch also does their own remans but they both farm out non-Bosch/Denso units out to a 3rd party.

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Re: Honda OEM starter vs aftermarket??? [Re: nthach] #5285939 12/05/19 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris142
The AutoZone and O'Riley's ones are better than Napa's junk.

They are all "remanufactured" by BBB Industries or Remy in Mexico. Almost all the bits and pieces inside a chain store or even AC Delco non-GM OEM level reman come from WAI/Transpo from China.

In that case, the lifetime warranty on a Duralast or O'Reilly Optima Select is barely worth the trouble. Denso does their own remans, but only on their units. Supposedly, they rebuild them in Murrietta or Temecula, CA. Bosch also does their own remans but they both farm out non-Bosch/Denso units out to a 3rd party.

The Napa rebuild we get here were rebuilt in China.


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Re: Honda OEM starter vs aftermarket??? [Re: Garyd] #5285940 12/05/19 12:41 PM
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Book time is 2.2.


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Re: Honda OEM starter vs aftermarket??? [Re: Garyd] #5285952 12/05/19 12:50 PM
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It's about a 45 min job from the top. The intake manifold comes out without too much drama. You might be able to get away with reusing the metal gasket....my local dealer doesn't stock the gasket if it tells you anything.

I had one 2.4 where the starter bolt damaged some threads in the block during removal. Had to tap new threads.

So far I have only used Denso reman's and my experience is that 1 out of 4 have failed after 18 months.


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Re: Honda OEM starter vs aftermarket??? [Re: Chris142] #5285991 12/05/19 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris142

The Napa rebuild we get here were rebuilt in China.

Something tells me that either Napa is sourcing new from TYC or some other Chinese company and collecting cores to sell to brokers or that BBB/Remy/WAI have a reman plant in China which doesn't make sense due to the e-waste restrictions they recently imposed along with steel/iron/aluminum tariffs.

Re: Honda OEM starter vs aftermarket??? [Re: Garyd] #5286018 12/05/19 01:52 PM
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Going to drop my one bit on Honda parts knowledge here. Friends of mine that work for Honda said that they are really picky about giving core credits. The parts returned must be OE Honda, or Honda reman parts. If they are from a parts house the dealer will not be given the credit from Honda.


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