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Re: Rislone Quiets Lifter Tick. What Oil Now? [Re: Mad_Hatter] #5283524 12/02/19 11:00 PM
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Very much a real possibility...



Yes... I actually believe a real person who has and does formulates oils for sale.... Molakule does just that.... And teaches at a University... I trust him because he works with this type of stuff. He has said on here MoDTC is really a friction modifier... .

And I have done my own 5 second Google searches and found "friction modifier"....

I do think burla made a very good point that this molybdenum can be compounded with other elements to make it function in other ways.. which does make a lot of sense.



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Re: Rislone Quiets Lifter Tick. What Oil Now? [Re: walterjay] #5283527 12/02/19 11:03 PM
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Maybe it's both yes? There ya go. That chick molly is a dang chameleon EP and Friction Modifying.

Re: Rislone Quiets Lifter Tick. What Oil Now? [Re: Mad_Hatter] #5283528 12/02/19 11:06 PM
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BB...This is interesting...Apparently MoDTC is considered a friction modifier, AW additive and in solid form, an EP additive.

This is a worthy read... written by a chemist and not some schlep in the marketing dept.

MoDTC

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Re: Rislone Quiets Lifter Tick. What Oil Now? [Re: Mad_Hatter] #5283530 12/02/19 11:07 PM
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Understand this... When I use a word like champ...

It is not meant in a negative or derogatory way...

Don't mean it like that...

I don't mean that in a seriously bad way... Just a way of talking so to speak...

I do sincerely apologise if it came across that way...

I am sorry buddy... I just did not mean that in a bad way... But I don't always think about how it may appear/read to someone else...


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Re: Rislone Quiets Lifter Tick. What Oil Now? [Re: burla] #5283531 12/02/19 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by burla
Maybe it's both yes? There ya go. That chick molly is a dang chameleon EP and Friction Modifying.

😂😂😂..yes she is. Dare i say a "trans-additive"?😂

Re: Rislone Quiets Lifter Tick. What Oil Now? [Re: Mad_Hatter] #5283533 12/02/19 11:10 PM
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Yeah that's awesome ^^^^^

Post of the day nominee right there LOL

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Re: Rislone Quiets Lifter Tick. What Oil Now? [Re: bbhero] #5283534 12/02/19 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by bbhero


Understand this... When I use a word like champ...

It is not meant in a negative or derogatory way...

Don't mean it like that...

I don't mean that in a seriously bad way... Just a way of talking so to speak...


It's all good brother.. We can have heated debate and at the end of the day it's all just in the name of oil, something we both obviously share a passion for.😉

Seems like "moly", depending on it's various forms, can check off one or more boxes.

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Re: Rislone Quiets Lifter Tick. What Oil Now? [Re: Mad_Hatter] #5283535 12/02/19 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Mad_Hatter
BB...This is interesting...Apparently MoDTC is considered a friction modifier, AW additive and in solid form, an EP additive.

This is a worthy read... written by a chemist and not some schlep in the marketing dept.

MoDTC



Yeah that is interesting... Good find there man.


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Re: Rislone Quiets Lifter Tick. What Oil Now? [Re: Mad_Hatter] #5283537 12/02/19 11:14 PM
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Understand this... When I use a word like champ...

It is not meant in a negative or derogatory way...

Don't mean it like that...

I don't mean that in a seriously bad way... Just a way of talking so to speak...


It's all good brother.. We can have heated debate and at the end of the day it's all just in the name of oil, something we both obviously share a passion for.😉

Seems like "moly", depending on it's various forms, can check off one or more boxes.



True indeed man.. true indeed...

Yeah this stuff is very complicated and complex... Which is why I like learning about it... Really stretches your mind...


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Re: Rislone Quiets Lifter Tick. What Oil Now? [Re: bbhero] #5283540 12/02/19 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by bbhero
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BB...This is interesting...Apparently MoDTC is considered a friction modifier, AW additive and in solid form, an EP additive.

This is a worthy read... written by a chemist and not some schlep in the marketing dept.

MoDTC



Yeah that is interesting... Good find there man.

Yeah I thought so.. pretty straight forward and not too technical where it goes over the head but technical enough to learn a thing or two about moly. When you dive into studying of FM's and AW addys, the different regimes, it can fast get complicated and give you a headache..at least for me.😂

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You know one thing too...

And I need to remember this myself much better...

Typing stuff is not always easy... And it is very easy to misread or (mistype like I did) and for things to get a bit wild...I need to be better about that...

Again... I am sorry man...

You are one of the good guys on here... And I know that is true.


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Re: Rislone Quiets Lifter Tick. What Oil Now? [Re: Mad_Hatter] #5283544 12/02/19 11:20 PM
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BB...This is interesting...Apparently MoDTC is considered a friction modifier, AW additive and in solid form, an EP additive.

This is a worthy read... written by a chemist and not some schlep in the marketing dept.

MoDTC



Yeah that is interesting... Good find there man.

Yeah I thought so.. pretty straight forward and not too technical where it goes over the head but technical enough to learn a thing or two about moly. When you dive into studying of FM's and AW addys, the different regimes, it can fast get complicated and give you a headache..at least for me.😂



You know that is the thing...

It's so interesting and complex.. It also causes us to really think in a different way... Pretty neat stuff really.


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Re: Rislone Quiets Lifter Tick. What Oil Now? [Re: walterjay] #5283547 12/02/19 11:24 PM
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It's funny.. I've always considered moly as one of those "nice to have" in the oil but you hope you never need it?
Just the mere thought of metal grinding is unnerving.

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Re: Rislone Quiets Lifter Tick. What Oil Now? [Re: Mad_Hatter] #5283549 12/02/19 11:28 PM
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Yeah true.... That a great/funny yet true point ^^^


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Re: Rislone Quiets Lifter Tick. What Oil Now? [Re: Mad_Hatter] #5283557 12/02/19 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Mad_Hatter
It's funny.. I've always considered moly as one of those "nice to have" in the oil but you hope you never need it?
Just the mere thought of metal grinding is unnerving.


Yeah, join ram forum and learn about hemi tick, it will literally change what you think about moly. Funny that moly basics that has been here forever was exactly right if you read it, same with schaeffer's moly bible. And perhaps more relevant now then ever, because they keep taking out the protection in oil. So far these "experts" have left moly off the table, but I bet someday they will take that out as well. Despite having lspi quenching ability and stops a lot of ticks. You can read up on amazon all the reviews from all the various moly additives. Something of real note, many times including mine it takes several 100 miles of ticking/knocking before the engine goes silent. Many many testimonials say the same thing, why is that? My theory and I admit I have no proof, the moly plate. It takes TIME, Pressure and heat for the moly to plate, key word time. Anyhow, don't want to harp on it, for guys with lifter tick there is something to consider.

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