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Benz vs. Honda Paint #5281903 12/01/19 11:30 AM
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was at the local Costco and saw the small Benz sedan and Honda CRV next to each other. Side by side comparison of paint quality between the two was easy. Although we accept Honda reliability as stellar and Benz not so much, the Honda paint clearly exhibited orange peel, the Benz did not. Honda, in my opinion, has always had lower quality paint than just about everyone else. You see tons of them driving around with faded roofs,trunks and hoods. Maybe I'll rethink my upcoming car purchase.

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That's why one is a Honda and the other a Benz smile

I had my Accord repainted earlier this year because of Honda's infamous cleacoat failure. The Pilots in Tafetta White have issues with paint straight peeling off. Luckily, Honda issued an extended warranty for this recently. Our old Benz ML320 had amazing paint quality. Very tough and didn't show scratches easily, despite being black.


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Re: Benz vs. Honda Paint [Re: willbur] #5281921 12/01/19 11:50 AM
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The way 99% of car owners in US maintain their cars (cosmetic wise), orange peel or lack of thereof will make 0 difference- cars will be covered with scratches and swirls caused by automatic car washes and you won’t even see the orange peel

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Clear coat failures are caused by poor car washing practices as well as keeping the cars outodoors. Paint flailing off is certainly a manufacturing issue

Re: Benz vs. Honda Paint [Re: willbur] #5281930 12/01/19 11:57 AM
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I wonder if the cars painted outside of the USA have better paint? Are USA oem paints now low voc due to EPA?


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Re: Benz vs. Honda Paint [Re: willbur] #5281940 12/01/19 12:04 PM
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Hard to compare apples and oranges.

I believe the US has gone totally to water based low VOC paint.


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Re: Benz vs. Honda Paint [Re: willbur] #5281955 12/01/19 12:17 PM
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many cars have soft aka cheap paints like subarus + others! paint is VERY $$$$ + little color is used as it costs most, but the clearcoat varies as well as one shop that did a great job vs another not so good job a year ago, yes lots of Bambi's in Pa !!

Re: Benz vs. Honda Paint [Re: willbur] #5281959 12/01/19 12:23 PM
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Automotive paint is like house paint or any other paint for that matter. You can buy cheap and you can buy good.


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Re: Benz vs. Honda Paint [Re: willbur] #5281963 12/01/19 12:25 PM
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I’d hope the Mercedes had better paint


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Re: Benz vs. Honda Paint [Re: willbur] #5281979 12/01/19 12:36 PM
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I see Benz with bad paint. They can park next to a Honda with perfect paint. If one car is in the sun all the time, and one is in a garage all the time, it makes a big difference. How many Hondas are seen on the street with all their owners various care and use, versus Benz? My neighbor has a 15 CRV and I always remark how high quality the finish looks.

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In spite of the negative aspects of FCA vehicles, both real and/or perceived, my MOPAR vehicle paint has been stellar regarding long term appearance and resistance to damage over the past three + decades. At least they can get one thing right, LOL. Mine have been daily drivers that sit outdoors 24/7. I detail them once in spring, once in the fall.

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The comparison is impossible, between ANY German car and ANY Japanese car.


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Re: Benz vs. Honda Paint [Re: willbur] #5282013 12/01/19 01:12 PM
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About 10 years ago I was having some painting done by a highly reputed shop. This guy does a lot of the high end paint work in a large Canadian city - repairing transport scratches on undelivered Porsches and that sort of thing. He did some work for me that has stood up remarkably well.

In his opinion (and obviously at that time) he considered Honda and Toyota to have the best quality paint.


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Re: Benz vs. Honda Paint [Re: parshisa] #5282016 12/01/19 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by parshisa
The way 99% of car owners in US maintain their cars (cosmetic wise), orange peel or lack of thereof will make 0 difference- cars will be covered with scratches and swirls caused by automatic car washes and you won’t even see the orange peel



This is exactly it, It’s amazing to think that people expect the hold up to exposure of heat/uv rays without any sort or care. I have family in Florida, and it’s amazing to see the condition of 1-2 year old high end vehicles with faded, swirled paint. Clear coat is soft and unless the day you get it and start a proper car care procedure....it’s not going to stand a chance. Unless it’s garaged, but even then just preventing the inevitable. It’s not a coincidence that you have 3-4 year old vehicles across all makes and model that need paint correction done.

Every vehicle I have ever owned, from new or even purchased used, first thing I do is give it a nice proper wax, and maintain it after every wash with spray wax. And I have never had a issue, and always been complimented at time of sale or just in general. I was lucky to find a mint 2013 Jeep Wrangler that was stock, meticulously maintained and in a garage most of time. After few coats of wax and maintaining it, that silver metallic pops like day it came out of factory.

And if people just did this right from new, that few bucks and few hours you spend taking care of it, you will make it up on resale. Not to mention how much easier it is to wax a new vehicle compared to one that has never been touched even after a year or two.


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Re: Benz vs. Honda Paint [Re: edyvw] #5282029 12/01/19 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by edyvw
The comparison is impossible, between ANY German car and ANY Japanese car.



The German car is the one with a person under it.


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