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Am i overdoing it? #5281641 12/01/19 05:49 AM
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I have a 1998 Mitsubishi lancer with engine that started to consume oil with 20w50 oil with added oil treatment, i started doing this mix for my engine oil, 4 liters mixed with 120ml liqui moly oil additive " mos2 " and 1 can of mannol motor doctor 9990 but one of my friends told me i am overdoing it with the mos2 as the engine is a goner anyways and i am just getting any life out of it before changing the short block, so my question is should i use oil with mannol doctor only or keep using the mix i did?

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How much oil is it consuming? 1 liter per 2000 km or anything similar? If it's much worse than this then I don't think any additives will slow down consumption.


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Re: Am i overdoing it? [Re: Espada] #5281647 12/01/19 06:17 AM
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This problem has been ongoing based on your last thread.

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/5217928/1


Additives are not going to fix what is probably a bad job by the mechanic who worked on your engine.


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Re: Am i overdoing it? [Re: Espada] #5281648 12/01/19 06:18 AM
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If whatever you’re doing is working, then I don’t think you’re overdoing it.

If you aren’ seeing any improvements, I’d just go back to what you were doing before.

X2 on how much it’s consuming. If it recently started to and it’s an issue, are you certain it’s not a leak?


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Re: Am i overdoing it? [Re: Espada] #5281652 12/01/19 06:25 AM
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I know nothing is going to fix i am just trying to prolong the life of the engine as much as i can, the car is burning 1litre every 1000 - 1500km depends on speed and if i am traveling or inside town

Re: Am i overdoing it? [Re: Espada] #5281751 12/01/19 08:53 AM
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One liter every 1000-1500 km isn’t bad. If it gets worse, it’s likely rebuild time, based on previous discussion (not valve stem seals, right?).

Honestly, I would just buy a good quality oil, keep it topped off and save your money for the next car/rebuild. The additives aren’t making any difference in your problem, but they are draining your wallet faster...

The 20W50 is a good choice for both your car, and your climate...never gets cold in Cairo...but it sure gets hot in summer!

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Re: Am i overdoing it? [Re: Espada] #5281775 12/01/19 09:20 AM
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Maybe just try a 20W50 high mileage formula oil.


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Re: Am i overdoing it? [Re: aquariuscsm] #5281788 12/01/19 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by aquariuscsm
Maybe just try a 20W50 high mileage formula oil.

I haven't seen such an item.(?)


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Re: Am i overdoing it? [Re: Espada] #5281789 12/01/19 09:32 AM
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Re: Am i overdoing it?

Yes. Time to face the reaper and either rebuild, sell or scrap.


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Re: Am i overdoing it? [Re: Espada] #5281795 12/01/19 09:36 AM
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This is after a bad repair job? Sounds like you’ll need a rebuild. Weigh the costs of that vs a new vehicle.

Re: Am i overdoing it? [Re: ka9mnx] #5281798 12/01/19 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by ka9mnx
Originally Posted by aquariuscsm
Maybe just try a 20W50 high mileage formula oil.

I haven't seen such an item.(?)


Here's a couple:

Maxlife 20W50

https://sharena21.springcm.com/Publ...bd3/dcefb479-09bd-e711-9c12-ac162d889bd1

GTX High Mileage 20W50

https://msdspds.castrol.com/bpglis/FusionPDS.nsf/Files/E06073C8EBB011BD80257DFD00582FDA/$File/BPXE-9UF2AZ.pdf



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Re: Am i overdoing it? [Re: Espada] #5281852 12/01/19 10:34 AM
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Is this the same engine that didn't have the valve stem seals replaced..or was it the rings, can't recall?? Either way you shouldn't be drinking that amount of oil after a rebuild. Otherwise, what was the point of the rebuild???

I'd take it back and make them fix it.

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Re: Am i overdoing it? [Re: Espada] #5281892 12/01/19 11:16 AM
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I don’t think it was rebuilt - I think the OP was considering a repair, and opted not to. A Litre every 1000-1500 KM isn’t terrible. Some car companies won’t even fix that under warranty.

Oil recommendations for specific brands won’t help him much, the market for oil in Egypt is different...

Espada - it’s a lot cheaper to buy an extra litre every month than it is to rebuild this engine, or to concoct lots of additives.

Just keep your money in your wallet. Buy a decent 20w50 and keep driving.


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Originally Posted by Astro14
I don’t think it was rebuilt - I think the OP was considering a repair, and opted not to. A Litre every 1000-1500 KM isn’t terrible. Some car companies won’t even fix that under warranty.

Oil recommendations for specific brands won’t help him much, the market for oil in Egypt is different...

Espada - it’s a lot cheaper to buy an extra litre every month than it is to rebuild this engine, or to concoct lots of additives.

Just keep your money in your wallet. Buy a decent 20w50 and keep driving.

It was rebuilt.

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/foru...it-safe-to-use-100-synthetic#Post5190894

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Re: Am i overdoing it? [Re: Espada] #5281956 12/01/19 12:18 PM
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As others have said, just keep it topped up.

Keep it going for as long as you can, until you can afford to replace the car. I would not being spending more money that may not possibly fix the issue second time around.


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