Was browsing amazon and came across the Fram Ph7317. But wait a second, why is it pictured as a black oil filter? Is Fram changing from the sure grip filters?
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It's because it's black, isn't it? Just remember, SureGrip costs money, and Trico is now trying to recoup their expenses of purchasing Fram. No telling what is going to get the axe....
1) Possibly a new, cheap line?
2) A cheap, generic in black run through a "label printer"?
2) A cheap, generic in black run through a "label printer"?
Personally never seen a black can Fram labeled jobber tier filter, sure grip or not. Have seen WM Fram Core jobber(use in TLE /ACC), but it's orange-ish and has a full can texture coat. And sometimes they are sold by the case, at least according to posts here.
I have also seen Fram motorcycle OF with a black can, no sure grip. But not in topic PH7317 which is number used for Fram automotive applications.
I have also seen Fram motorcycle OF with a black can, no sure grip. But not in topic PH7317 which is number used for Fram automotive applications.
Maybe Black's where it's at.
Originally Posted by Sayjac
Personally never seen a black can Fram labeled jobber tier filter, sure grip or not. Have seen WM Fram Core jobber(use in TLE /ACC), but it's orange-ish and has a full can texture coat. And sometimes they are sold by the case, at least according to posts here.
I have also seen Fram motorcycle OF with a black can, no sure grip. But not in topic PH7317 which is number used for Fram automotive applications.
A couple of those old Walmart TLE cans were black. I don't remember which part numbers, but I definitely remember seeing at least one black TLE filter. It had the same textured grip as the orange TLE cans.
Personally never seen a black can Fram labeled jobber tier filter, sure grip or not. Have seen WM Fram Core jobber(use in TLE /ACC), but it's orange-ish and has a full can texture coat. And sometimes they are sold by the case, at least according to posts here.
I have also seen Fram motorcycle OF with a black can, no sure grip. But not in topic PH7317 which is number used for Fram automotive applications.
A couple of those old Walmart TLE cans were black. I don't remember which part numbers, but I definitely remember seeing at least one black TLE filter. It had the same textured grip as the orange TLE cans.
Thinking more and memory refreshed by google image search, the WM TLE Core filters were black/brown-ish at one point. Like current WM Core filters though, they were fully texture coated. Circa 2012 and they may have been all Champ Labs made as part of Farm Champ Alliance at that point. Many were ecores. They replaced the orange can Fram Pro line in the TLE.
However, since the topic filter has no texture, still can't be the same. Topic can looks most like Fram motorcycle filters.
However, since the topic filter has no texture, still can't be the same. Topic can looks most like Fram motorcycle filters.
Sure grip need to stay with fram .
I'd be fine with the extra guard being black, tough guard silver, and ultra gold
I'm guessing the black is for applications where the user might not want an orange color showing. Ie Motorcycles, boats, atvs, machinery, etc
The 7317 fits Mercury applications for watercraft, trailwagon atvs, Caterpillar engines, and quite a bit of others. My guess is the black version is for these applications. Why? I dont know, user preference?
Plenty of brands out there have two or more of the same filter just painted differently. Orange would kinda stick out like a sore thumb on a motorcycle, although I dont think this filter has a motorcycle application, I'm sure theres a boat nut out there who doesn't want a bright orange can on his red and black mercury engine.
IIRC K&N has black as well as chrome HP filters (the ones with the rust nut) with the same application number as the white cans for motorcycle and watercraft engines.
The 7317 fits Mercury applications for watercraft, trailwagon atvs, Caterpillar engines, and quite a bit of others. My guess is the black version is for these applications. Why? I dont know, user preference?
Plenty of brands out there have two or more of the same filter just painted differently. Orange would kinda stick out like a sore thumb on a motorcycle, although I dont think this filter has a motorcycle application, I'm sure theres a boat nut out there who doesn't want a bright orange can on his red and black mercury engine.
IIRC K&N has black as well as chrome HP filters (the ones with the rust nut) with the same application number as the white cans for motorcycle and watercraft engines.
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Update: received the standard orange sure grip extra guard through amazon so I have no idea why they show the black version....oh well, I'll run the filter on my wife's Honda next oil change
Black is an improvement. That orange can has hella negatives associated with.
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