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Denso FTF #5278783 11/27/19 11:00 AM
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Is there any reason to believe that the denso first time fit oil filters wouldn’t be safe to run for 10k OCI when used with full synthetic oil?

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Would not think twice about it. Denso is OEM

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Originally Posted by tundraotto
Would not think twice about it. Denso is OEM
FTF aren't. They also changed their COO recently, be careful before you buy a case of them thinking they are the bee's knees.


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Made to same specs by same parent company. On a bare filter element manufacturing defects will be obvious - if any.

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No, assuming it goes in a clean engine in good condition. The Toyota (=Denso) cartridge I used ~17.5k miles came out looking good-as-new.


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I had one in our 4Runner that was just traded. Outside the box, it looked just as nice as the OEM filter. I was going to run that one for 10,000 miles and wasn’t thinking twice about it.


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The older ones with the silicone adbv, yes. Not so sure about the newer batches with the nitrile adbv as I have not used one or cut one open yet.


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Originally Posted by ThirdeYe
The older ones with the silicone adbv, yes. Not so sure about the newer batches with the nitrile adbv as I have not used one or cut one open yet.

They were canister filter elements for our old 4Runner. Like the ones pictured in the OP.


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It will be fine for that thumbsup

Also, Mahle makes good cartridges for your Toyota smile

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Originally Posted by ThirdeYe
The older ones with the silicone adbv, yes. Not so sure about the newer batches with the nitrile adbv as I have not used one or cut one open yet.
That's not relevant to Bettez88's question, because there's no adbv in cartridge filters.


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There is no reason to believe it would make it to 15K miles.


make the inside of your engine oil cap white.
don't use.
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The older ones with the silicone adbv, yes. Not so sure about the newer batches with the nitrile adbv as I have not used one or cut one open yet.
That's not relevant to Bettez88's question, because there's no adbv in cartridge filters.


Ah, I wasn’t aware his was a cartridge setup. I thought it was just the guts of a denso can, as the media looks basically identical inside of a toyota oem filter. Should’ve known as the FTF cans i’ve opened have metal endcaps. I’m so used to maintaining 10+ year old Toyotas that I often forget newer ones have cartridges.


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Originally Posted by ThirdeYe
The older ones with the silicone adbv, yes. Not so sure about the newer batches with the nitrile adbv as I have not used one or cut one open yet.


Though they are black, the new ones are also Silicone.

Op, use them with confidence. Check my post history and you’ll see I recently did a C&P.


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The older ones with the silicone adbv, yes. Not so sure about the newer batches with the nitrile adbv as I have not used one or cut one open yet.


Though they are black, the new ones are also Silicone.

Op, use them with confidence. Check my post history and you’ll see I recently did a C&P.


Good to know! I really liked the older ones and only have a few of them left.


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Originally Posted by ThirdeYe
The older ones with the silicone adbv, yes. Not so sure about the newer batches with the nitrile adbv as I have not used one or cut one open yet.
As noted topic filter is cartridge not spin on/canister type. OT That said, the inside of Denso FTF spin on not the same as Thia Toyota Denso oem. Former use metal endcaps and latter are no endcap type with very similar element to cartridge shown. And as confirmed by member Hootbro here the new Denso FTF with China coo use a black nitrile adbv, as noted older FTF used red silicone.

Current Denso website info for spin on OF, not accurate for both element type and adbv composition. Another member reached same adbv conclusion as Hootbro with comparison of old FTF to new as posted here. So, the "preponderance of best current evidence" says the newer FTF spin on use nitrile adbv.

To topic, can't see or think of any reason why topic cartridge wouldn't be fine for 10k mi. fci.


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