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Quick Mac mini Update #5277738 11/26/19 09:50 AM
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Well, I think I am a solid 10 weeks into my first ever Mac Computer, Mac mini i5 Computer with a new HP 24 inch display and new Cannon Image Class MF445DW.

As we know, after 25 years of using Windows I got sick of all the updates and problems, plus its gotten so full of stuff I dont need. Windows does everything but a master of none.

Anyway, my past posts on the subject have been good and bad regarding the New Mac mini.
First I happen to buy it just as Apple was doing its annual update and certain issues printing popped up until another updated fixed it.
I also had an issue, corrected by Apple after 3 phone calls (again, sometimes its just getting the right person) about my warranty getting registered. I bought from a certified Apple reseller and something wasn't properly entered or whatever. Its all good now.

Also, the new Canon printer had some funky things going on with it as well and it got frustrating, more or less, I had a new Computer, with new updated operating system and happened to buy a new printer that was so new the printer software itself was only weeks old.

ok, enough said, I am LOVING this Mac mini. As others pointed out, maybe my expectations were too high, no operating system is perfect. I was EXTREMELY impressed who quickly Apple answers the phone, like wow! Again, not that everyone who does knows what they are doing. *L*

With that said, I am constantly still to this day amazed at the speed of the MAC, I LOVE the simplicity of the operating system. Meaning not that its simple and cant do things but just seems so logical and professional. Not bloated with garbage,
When I turn this Mac on, too describe, I feel like I am getting in one of my sons BMWs, not my Dodge Durango or Wifes Mazda. *L*
It just feels precise. So much so, as I stated in the past and maybe more so now, I may complete the whole transition and move into the Apple world of cell phones by getting an iPhone for the first time in the almost 25 years of using cell phones.
(if I get one for Christmas *L*)

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Re: Quick Mac mini Update [Re: alarmguy] #5277762 11/26/19 10:13 AM
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I have ubuntu on my MacBook Pro and 16G ram and 254SSD. What a screaming combo. I also have a new HP with Win 10 and an old Toshiba on Win 7. Wife has a 2 year old MacBook with Apple software. Hard to keep up with all of them. The Mac/Apple is very nice stuff. I always wanted a mini but my wife was too steeped in Windows since that was required when she was teaching.


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Re: Quick Mac mini Update [Re: alarmguy] #5277768 11/26/19 10:21 AM
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Once you go MAC, you never go back. I can't even begin to use a PC without cringing.


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Re: Quick Mac mini Update [Re: JLTD] #5277786 11/26/19 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by JLTD
Once you go MAC, you never go back. I can't even begin to use a PC without cringing.


I feel the same about the Mac. Can't even use it without cringing. But if you are happy with your machine, more power to you.

I'm typing this on a 13 year old HP desktop running CloudReady, a Chromebook like OS based on the Chromium open source project. Runs great. Machine has a Core 2 Duo E6550 - 2.33 Ghz, 8GB RAM, and a traditional hard drive.


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Re: Quick Mac mini Update [Re: alarmguy] #5277865 11/26/19 12:31 PM
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I think the windows 10 interface simplified a lot of complaints that people had with the windows 8 interface. At home I have a laptop running Linux Mint. It's quick, the interface is nice and simple, and it handles everything I need. At home I don't run anything windows specific that doesn't have a workaround. I appreciate how simple it is and the fact that it "just works".

Too much time having Windows and MS problems at work.


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Re: Quick Mac mini Update [Re: alarmguy] #5277873 11/26/19 12:43 PM
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Meh, for the price they are charging, they are just that, meh, IMO.
What they're doing well is shipping their stuff bloatware free, where windows is usually loaded by third party junk up the wazoo.

Get a clean win10 install on similar hardware and it will run just as well.


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Re: Quick Mac mini Update [Re: KrisZ] #5277996 11/26/19 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by KrisZ
Meh, for the price they are charging, they are just that, meh, IMO.
What they're doing well is shipping their stuff bloatware free, where windows is usually loaded by third party junk up the wazoo.
Get a clean win10 install on similar hardware and it will run just as well.


Made the change when W10 came out and screwed up my laptop and am I glad I did!
Apple hardware is 1st rate and that's one of the reasons why it's more expensive.

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Re: Quick Mac mini Update [Re: Pelican] #5278021 11/26/19 03:13 PM
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Apples hardware is a actually junk, even in their pro lineup.
Chips literally coming off of the boards due to heat, solder corroding just from humidity in the air, constantly throttling etc.

Just because they have nice aluminum chassis, doesn't mean the insides are of the same quality.

On top of this, they're fighting tooth and nail with the small repair shops and the right to repair movement.

There was a CBC spot where they took their mac pro to one of the genius bars to get it fixed. They got quoted more than the price of new macbook and all data on the laptop would be lost.

They then took ot to an independent repair shop and it turned out to be a display ribbon cable not making full contact. It was fixed in like 5 minutes.

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Re: Quick Mac mini Update [Re: alarmguy] #5278031 11/26/19 03:27 PM
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Another issue with apple, they flat out lie to their customers about ability to recover photos or data. If you're not backed up on iCloud, they will tell customers it is impossible to recover the data.

There are plenty of people on youtube alone that show they can fully or partially recover data in most cases and that apple is lying.

Not trying to sound like a hater, but what I'm trying to say be careful with any company. They all have good and bad.

Discussing both actually helps people make informed decisions.

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Re: Quick Mac mini Update [Re: KrisZ] #5278036 11/26/19 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by KrisZ
Meh, for the price they are charging, they are just that, meh, IMO.
What they're doing well is shipping their stuff bloatware free, where windows is usually loaded by third party junk up the wazoo.

Get a clean win10 install on similar hardware and it will run just as well.



That is important. You spend over $1000 on a Mac with no 3rd party bloatware. The bloatware included on windows computers helps the manufacturer subsidize the cost of building it. A $159 acer that you can pick up at Walmart has a highly subsidized cost with bloatware and it is going to have the slowest possible mechanical hard disk that they can find. I have seen them with 4200 RPM drives, even.

At work we have older windows laptops. Even the Dell E5400s from 2008 can run Windows 10 very well with 4GB of ram and a SSD. Of course, we have done a lot of work to customize our image so there isn't even any included Windows bloatware with it.


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Re: Quick Mac mini Update [Re: JLTD] #5278171 11/26/19 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by JLTD
Once you go MAC, you never go back. I can't even begin to use a PC without cringing.


I went back twice, and the third time seems to be the last one. They all have funny and odd behaviour when you least expect it. Add to that corporate fuzzy logic.
Macs used to be superb and superior and a joy to use. Even opening one to upgrade a drive or RAM was enjoyable experience, but that was long time ago.

Good for you, if you like it so much, it is good that it is serving your needs well. It is a bigger hindrance in my usage though.


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Regardless of our bias, we have to be grateful to the folks who spend their money on things and give us their feedback, be it it something silly or motor oil! Thank you, alarmguy.


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Re: Quick Mac mini Update [Re: Pelican] #5278238 11/26/19 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Pelican
Originally Posted by KrisZ
Meh, for the price they are charging, they are just that, meh, IMO.
What they're doing well is shipping their stuff bloatware free, where windows is usually loaded by third party junk up the wazoo.
Get a clean win10 install on similar hardware and it will run just as well.


Made the change when W10 came out and screwed up my laptop and am I glad I did!
Apple hardware is 1st rate and that's one of the reasons why it's more expensive.


Yes, I agree!
After 25 years of Windows, Apple is a fresh breath of air.

Ps. to Y_K thanks for your comment, Im no different, I like and respect differing views too. I find learning exciting and have an open mind to real facts. I dont (learning not to) respond to comments based on nothing such as some others on this page, its all good!

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Re: Quick Mac mini Update [Re: Pelican] #5278252 11/26/19 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Pelican
Originally Posted by KrisZ
Meh, for the price they are charging, they are just that, meh, IMO.
What they're doing well is shipping their stuff bloatware free, where windows is usually loaded by third party junk up the wazoo.
Get a clean win10 install on similar hardware and it will run just as well.


Made the change when W10 came out and screwed up my laptop and am I glad I did!
Apple hardware is 1st rate and that's one of the reasons why it's more expensive.


Yes, Windows 10 was the driving force for me to switch, had enough. I was ready for change. Priced into Apple is the whole experience and something I wanted to experience and now I wish I did it sooner in life. Also built into Apples price is they dont sell your information to the highest bidder, like anything related to google.

People think Android operating system is cheaper be it on a phone or computer, sure, its cheaper because you agree to let google sell the private information of you, your children and wife to third parties all over the world, highest bidder wins! Its a BIG business LOADED with HIGH paying jobs. So you are paying with your privacy. Google gives out free operating systems, puts you on a leash and studies you, your family and prostitutes your information.

Im in a position to pay with my wallet and dont need my or my family privacy to be sold so I can save a few hundred dollars. Geez! :o) Of all the money we spend in life, the difference is nothing.
The price is a bargain compared to the cost difference between a Mazda SUV and a BMW SUV. (nothing against Mazda, we own one and love it, son works for BMW so has two SUVs) IN both cases, whether computers or cars, if you can afford it, the experience is worth it and in Apples case, we are talking mere pennies.

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Sorry for high jacking your thread alarmguy. I agree that Apple software experience is good, very good actually.


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