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4.5 V8 diesel twin turbo #5276669 11/24/19 09:43 PM
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Dear all,

Which one of these available oils in the KSA market would be suitable for 5000KM ? (BTW, I am using OEM oil filters from Toyota)

Here is the information about the oils:

1- Fuchs

2- Shell

3- Mobil

4- Petromin oils which are attached in the pictures.

Petromin Super Fleet LD.pngDiesel HD.pngPetromin Super Diesel Turbo.png

'83 Toyota Cressida VWB 5w30 & Denso
'88 Cadillac Brougham d'Elegance VWB 5w30 & Wix gold
'15 Honda Odyssey Castrol Edge 0w20 & Proselect


Re: 4.5 V8 diesel twin turbo [Re: momo] #5276687 11/24/19 10:07 PM
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what vehicle?

PS that petromin looks terrible and the mobil pdf is from 2008.


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Re: 4.5 V8 diesel twin turbo [Re: momo] #5276717 11/24/19 11:58 PM
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Toyota totally missed the boat not importing their diesels into the US.


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Re: 4.5 V8 diesel twin turbo [Re: Rand] #5276734 11/25/19 01:23 AM
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Sorry I should have updated my signature.

It is 2020 Toyota Land cruiser 4.5 V8 twin turbo diesel


'83 Toyota Cressida VWB 5w30 & Denso
'88 Cadillac Brougham d'Elegance VWB 5w30 & Wix gold
'15 Honda Odyssey Castrol Edge 0w20 & Proselect


Re: 4.5 V8 diesel twin turbo [Re: Rand] #5276735 11/25/19 01:25 AM
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PS that petromin looks terrible and the mobil pdf is from 2008.[/quote]


This is the only version that I found online from Mobil in SA


'83 Toyota Cressida VWB 5w30 & Denso
'88 Cadillac Brougham d'Elegance VWB 5w30 & Wix gold
'15 Honda Odyssey Castrol Edge 0w20 & Proselect


Re: 4.5 V8 diesel twin turbo [Re: JohnnyJohnson] #5276754 11/25/19 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyJohnson
Toyota totally missed the boat not importing their diesels into the US.

Why? They're honestly not that great.


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Re: 4.5 V8 diesel twin turbo [Re: rooflessVW] #5276764 11/25/19 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by rooflessVW
Originally Posted by JohnnyJohnson
Toyota totally missed the boat not importing their diesels into the US.

Why? They're honestly not that great.


Back to my question, any advice?


'83 Toyota Cressida VWB 5w30 & Denso
'88 Cadillac Brougham d'Elegance VWB 5w30 & Wix gold
'15 Honda Odyssey Castrol Edge 0w20 & Proselect


Re: 4.5 V8 diesel twin turbo [Re: momo] #5276781 11/25/19 05:12 AM
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Either should work well for you. I would stick to 3,000 km drain intervals, however:

Caltex Delo 400 MGX SAE 15W-40

Motorcraft 15W-40 Super Duty Diesel Motor Oil


Petro-Canada Duron HP 15W-40 CK-4/SN
99 Explorer: H17W02
00 Pajero: XG9688
01 Grand Marquis: XG2
05 Envoy: XG9837

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18 Mustang GT: XG10575
Re: 4.5 V8 diesel twin turbo [Re: momo] #5276819 11/25/19 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by momo
Sorry I should have updated my signature.

It is 2020 Toyota Land cruiser 4.5 V8 twin turbo diesel


What is Toyota’s recommendation for viscosity and specs?

What is the KSA market?

Re: 4.5 V8 diesel twin turbo [Re: JohnnyJohnson] #5277014 11/25/19 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyJohnson
Toyota totally missed the boat not importing their diesels into the US.

I have one, it would be competition in reliability with FIAT 500 and Chrysler 200.


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Re: 4.5 V8 diesel twin turbo [Re: momo] #5277019 11/25/19 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by momo
Originally Posted by rooflessVW
Originally Posted by JohnnyJohnson
Toyota totally missed the boat not importing their diesels into the US.

Why? They're honestly not that great.


Back to my question, any advice?

Are there any ACEA C3 oils available?


11' BMW 328i xDrive 6MT (BMW TPT 5W30+OE filter)
11' VW Tiguan 2.0T (Castrol 0W30+OE filter)
15' Toyota Sienna AWD (Mobil1 5W30 EP+OEM filter).
Re: 4.5 V8 diesel twin turbo [Re: JohnnyJohnson] #5277024 11/25/19 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyJohnson
Toyota totally missed the boat not importing their diesels into the US.


That's because the price of diesel compared to gasoline is relatively much higher in the USA. Toyota is a very rational company and made a good decision based on the local market.

Here is an example of two stations 4 miles apart, in Sarnia, ON and Port Huron USA.

Esso Sarnia: Regular 109.6/L Diesel 122.3/L
equal to USD: 3.11/gal 3.48/gal 12% higher

Speedy PT Huron: Regular 2.47/gal Diesel $2.95/gal 19.5% higher

The differential is even greater when you take low cost sellers like Costco:
Costco Roseville MI
Regular: 2.19/gal Diesel: 2.79/gal 33% higher

Diesel light duty vehicles do not sell well in the US except for trucks with towing applications because of the cost differential of fuel, negating any mileage advantage, and the higher initial cost of diesel engines. In Ontario, and most other provinces in Canada, tax differentials favor the economics of diesel.



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Originally Posted by NO2
Originally Posted by JohnnyJohnson
Toyota totally missed the boat not importing their diesels into the US.


That's because the price of diesel compared to gasoline is relatively much higher in the USA. Toyota is a very rational company and made a good decision based on the local market.

Here is an example of two stations 4 miles apart, in Sarnia, ON and Port Huron USA.

Esso Sarnia: Regular 109.6/L Diesel 122.3/L
equal to USD: 3.11/gal 3.48/gal 12% higher

Speedy PT Huron: Regular 2.47/gal Diesel $2.95/gal 19.5% higher

The differential is even greater when you take low cost sellers like Costco:
Costco Roseville MI
Regular: 2.19/gal Diesel: 2.79/gal 33% higher

Diesel light duty vehicles do not sell well in the US except for trucks with towing applications because of the cost differential of fuel, negating any mileage advantage, and the higher initial cost of diesel engines. In Ontario, and most other provinces in Canada, tax differentials favor the economics of diesel.



It is not that. Toyota is staying away on North America market from complex engines. Their diesel engines are average at best, and some are absolutely abysmal performance wise and reliability wise (this is especially true of small 2.0 D-4D engines they introduced in Europe some 15 years ago). This would not go well with their perception of reliability that people have.
I own Land Cruiser Prado 3.0 D-4D in Europe, and my BMW X5 35d was 10 times a vehicle compare tot hat one, especially when it comes to maintenance. In the end, Toyota is buying now diesel engines for smaller vehicles from BMW.
If Toyota had confidence in their engines they would fit LC with V8 for the US market. But also, that means they would have to fit SCR into LC, and all manufacturers have issues with that system.


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11' VW Tiguan 2.0T (Castrol 0W30+OE filter)
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Re: 4.5 V8 diesel twin turbo [Re: Falcon_LS] #5277071 11/25/19 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Falcon_LS
Either should work well for you. I would stick to 3,000 km drain intervals, however:

Caltex Delo 400 MGX SAE 15W-40

Motorcraft 15W-40 Super Duty Diesel Motor Oil



3000 km? its a overkill

Re: 4.5 V8 diesel twin turbo [Re: Bjornviken] #5277528 11/25/19 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Bjornviken
3000 km? its a overkill


Not exactly - the OP is based in Saudi Arabia, and is running diesel fuel with a sulfur content of 5,000 ppm in a desert environment.


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