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Truing tires from radial runout #5276136 11/24/19 10:38 AM
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About three years ago, I bought a set of Firestone Winterforce tires brand new from a tire store, mounted and balanced for my Toyota pickup.

My pickup had vibration right from the start. I took my pickup back to the tire store for correction. Same result. Took it back a second time and the tire store re indexed the tires on the rim and rebalanced. Same vibration at 60 mph.

When I got home, I jacked up the pickup and turned each tire by hand. Two of the four tires had about a quarter of an inch of radial runout. The wheels are straight and true.

I would like to have the tires trimmed straight and true. I asked around and no one seems to do this kind of service.

Does anyone know of a tire service place somewhere in or near New Hampshire that can do this? I am willing to do this myself if necessary. I don’t really want to give up on tires that have less than 300 miles on them.

As the tires are now, I find the vibration unacceptable.

I have a different set of dedicated winter tires on the same wheels that are smooth as glass but will need replacing next winter.

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance.

Last edited by frankbee3; 11/24/19 10:41 AM. Reason: Corrected the spelling in the title.

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Re: Truing tires from radial runout [Re: frankbee3] #5276144 11/24/19 10:50 AM
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You mean the tire is that far out and Firestone wouldn't replace them after you pointed this out to them?


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Re: Truing tires from radial runout [Re: frankbee3] #5276148 11/24/19 10:55 AM
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IMO based on your description, the tires are defective and need to be replaced.

Re: Truing tires from radial runout [Re: JohnnyJohnson] #5276149 11/24/19 10:57 AM
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Yes, the tire shop said there was nothing more they could do. I told the tire shop that I found the radial runout, and the manager basically refused to help from that point on.

Needless to say, I don’t go there any more..


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Re: Truing tires from radial runout [Re: frankbee3] #5276164 11/24/19 11:09 AM
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go to a different Firestone. This is an obvious defect. if that doesn't work, try calling firestone corporate. You spend good money to get perfectly working tires. Not ones you need to "fix" right after you bought them.

Re: Truing tires from radial runout [Re: frankbee3] #5276168 11/24/19 11:20 AM
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If you take off a 1/4” of that tire you will have a bald spot pretty soon in that area.

Would that be a “fix”?


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Re: Truing tires from radial runout [Re: frankbee3] #5276171 11/24/19 11:23 AM
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I don’t want to admit that I have let three years go by since I bought the tires. I found some used Nitto snow tires that are glass smooth and basically forgot about the Firestone’s.

I don’t think Firestone would care since this was three or more years ago. I am just trying to see if I can make the tires work. I like to try things (experiment) and would like to see if the tires can be corrected safely.

I am not interested in barking up some trees trying to get recourse for something that I failed to follow up on in a timely manner. Live and learn for me.

Back to the original question. Anyone know of a shop that can shave the tires, or, know of any technique or tools that I could use to shave the tires true?


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Re: Truing tires from radial runout [Re: frankbee3] #5276173 11/24/19 11:26 AM
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Good point ammolab. Maybe time to give up on the idea.

My fault for not escalating this to a timely resolution.


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Re: Truing tires from radial runout [Re: frankbee3] #5276174 11/24/19 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by frankbee3
Yes, the tire shop said there was nothing more they could do. I told the tire shop that I found the radial runout, and the manager basically refused to help from that point on.

Needless to say, I don’t go there any more..


Well now you know who to mark off your tire buying list. If there is another Firestone store take it to them and see what they say. But frankly I've never heard of anyong having outstanding customer service from Firestone.


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Re: Truing tires from radial runout [Re: frankbee3] #5276181 11/24/19 11:43 AM
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Closest thing you could do is come up with some sort of jig that runs the car on jack stands and shaves with an angle grinder mounted to a tripod.

But if you lose that much rubber, you'd take an impressive amount of weight to counter-balance this. And what would it mean for your traction to come around to a more bald spot every 40 inches or so?

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It wasn’t a Firestone brand store. It was a Quick Lane tire store that is part of a large local dealership where I bought the Firestone Winterforce tires.

In the meantime the local Goodyear tire store has demonstrated excellent service, but I haven’t ever had a problem with any tire purchase prior to (or since) the Firestone Winterforce purchase.


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Bend your rim by the same amount. Mount the tire with that in mind? Obviously a bad idea, but nothing else would work. You can’t shave it round.


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Originally Posted by tcp71
You can’t shave it round.



Dealers years ago used to do this, you might have to search. Tire rack still lists it, probably have to contact them for the closest service.

https://blog.tirerack.com/blog/motorsport-messages-from-marshall/tire-shaving-available-at-tire-rack


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Put them on the rear and do burnouts?


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Bet you lunch if they're Hunter Road Forced you'll find a bad tire. ALWAYS get new tires Hunter Road Forced when you buy them.


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