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Pennzoil recommends Platinum Euro LX 0w30 for Jetta 1.4 TSI? #5273772 11/21/19 03:41 PM
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I was playing around with the oil selector tool on the Pennzoil website for my 2016 Jetta 1.4 TSI and I noticed they are recommending the Euro LX 0w30 ACEA C2/C3 formulation. Isn't this a "low SAPS" diesel type oil? (yes I realize it can be used in gasoline engines) I guess I just thought this was a VW 507 oil for fuel types in Europe or US diesel only primarily. Does Pennzoil not realize that this engine is not a diesel? I was nearly certain I would get a 5w40 or 0w40 A3/B4 oil so when it spit this out I was quite surprised.

Also, I have owned several VW and Audi products and always used the Castrol Edge 5w40 oil like it says on the cap (dealer oil changes mostly) -- I have been doing some of my own oil changes again recently and really been wanting to try a Pennzoil product. The thing is, I'm looking at viscosity numbers and noack volatility and spec sheets and I'm coming away pretty impressed with Castrol. Anyone have any thoughts?

Re: Pennzoil recommends Platinum Euro LX 0w30 for Jetta 1.4 TSI? [Re: trgfunds] #5273779 11/21/19 03:49 PM
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Mobiloil.com says: "your vehicle manufacturer recommends a 5W-30 or 5W-40 viscosity and oil that meets VW 502 00, VW 503 00 or VW 504 00. A 0W-30 or 0W-40 viscosity can also be used. Your engine oil capacity is approximately 4.2 quarts."
They are generally reliable in recommendations. Your owners manual should describe it well too.
Bottom line: VW 504 oil is the EuroLX 0w30 stuff, and low-saps is fine with the 2019+ low sulfur gasoline in the U.S. now. EPA did that. Acids don't build up as fast with less sulfur and low starting TBN. No problem with VW 504 low saps.


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Re: Pennzoil recommends Platinum Euro LX 0w30 for Jetta 1.4 TSI? [Re: trgfunds] #5273786 11/21/19 03:58 PM
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As has been noted above, the oil has VW 504 00 approval which is one of the ones required for your vehicle. The correct approval is important, within the confines of that the grade is largely irrelevant.


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Re: Pennzoil recommends Platinum Euro LX 0w30 for Jetta 1.4 TSI? [Re: paoester] #5273787 11/21/19 04:00 PM
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low-saps is fine with the 2019+ low sulfur gasoline in the U.S. now. EPA did that. Acids don't build up as fast with less sulfur and low starting TBN.


Ahh! I did not realize we had the new fuel in the US. Okay this makes sense to me now. Thanks!

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Re: Pennzoil recommends Platinum Euro LX 0w30 for Jetta 1.4 TSI? [Re: trgfunds] #5273798 11/21/19 04:15 PM
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I was using Pennzoil 0W-40 and 5W-40 in my Jetta. It gave me the warm fuzzy feeling too. Then that stupid Valvoline sale hit and I bought 15 jugs... Pennzoil 5W40 looked gold even after 5-6K.


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Re: Pennzoil recommends Platinum Euro LX 0w30 for Jetta 1.4 TSI? [Re: trgfunds] #5273807 11/21/19 04:29 PM
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While it's a great oil, you have much easier to find (and cheaper) options for your Jetta. But if you'd like to see what the oil looks like with use in a gas engine, I should have UOA results in the next day or two.


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Re: Pennzoil recommends Platinum Euro LX 0w30 for Jetta 1.4 TSI? [Re: RamFan] #5273824 11/21/19 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by RamFan
While it's a great oil, you have much easier to find (and cheaper) options for your Jetta. But if you'd like to see what the oil looks like with use in a gas engine, I should have UOA results in the next day or two.

Used in a different engine produced by a different manufacturer operated under different conditions? How is that relevant?


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Re: Pennzoil recommends Platinum Euro LX 0w30 for Jetta 1.4 TSI? [Re: trgfunds] #5273832 11/21/19 05:01 PM
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Anybody know why Euro LX has a lot of Boron? Its around 400 ppm.


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Re: Pennzoil recommends Platinum Euro LX 0w30 for Jetta 1.4 TSI? [Re: RamFan] #5273838 11/21/19 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by RamFan
While it's a great oil, you have much easier to find (and cheaper) options for your Jetta. But if you'd like to see what the oil looks like with use in a gas engine, I should have UOA results in the next day or two.


I am always interested in UOAs on these euro oils. Definitely! Thanks!

Re: Pennzoil recommends Platinum Euro LX 0w30 for Jetta 1.4 TSI? [Re: trgfunds] #5273846 11/21/19 05:16 PM
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I've seen a few people state the US now has lower sulfur gasoline starting 2019. Unless I missed something, the US has the same standards since 2017. Average annual sulfur by refiner is 10ppm. An individual batch can leave the refinery at 80ppm and be 95ppm further downstream.

So yeah, you are very very likely to get 10ppm or lower, but, there is the chance of getting up to 95ppm.

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Originally Posted by GJM120
I've seen a few people state the US now has lower sulfur gasoline starting 2019. Unless I missed something, the US has the same standards since 2017. Average annual sulfur by refiner is 10ppm. An individual batch can leave the refinery at 80ppm and be 95ppm further downstream.

So yeah, you are very very likely to get 10ppm or lower, but, there is the chance of getting up to 95ppm.


Same here. I tried googling the EPA gasoline change and the only one I saw was the one enacted in 2017 (EPA Tier 3?)

Re: Pennzoil recommends Platinum Euro LX 0w30 for Jetta 1.4 TSI? [Re: trgfunds] #5273870 11/21/19 06:00 PM
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I am currently running the PP Euro 0W40 in wifeys Jetta in signature with the 1.4L Turbo.


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Re: Pennzoil recommends Platinum Euro LX 0w30 for Jetta 1.4 TSI? [Re: trgfunds] #5273872 11/21/19 06:07 PM
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Mobil 1 ESP probably a lot easier to find

Re: Pennzoil recommends Platinum Euro LX 0w30 for Jetta 1.4 TSI? [Re: trgfunds] #5273957 11/21/19 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by trgfunds
Originally Posted by GJM120
I've seen a few people state the US now has lower sulfur gasoline starting 2019. Unless I missed something, the US has the same standards since 2017. Average annual sulfur by refiner is 10ppm. An individual batch can leave the refinery at 80ppm and be 95ppm further downstream.

So yeah, you are very very likely to get 10ppm or lower, but, there is the chance of getting up to 95ppm.


Same here. I tried googling the EPA gasoline change and the only one I saw was the one enacted in 2017 (EPA Tier 3?)


True, 2017. However, the EPA was granting temporary waivers to smaller refineries only if they could show financial hardship (capital equipment forced purchases, down-time, etc.) caused by the new limits. That was temporary and now that its late 2019, those are just about all expired, so, its now considered "likely" and "safe" for low sulfur 10 ppm gasoline, finally, right?


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I currently have Euro LX 0w-30 in my Subaru Forester XT (FA20DIT) for the cold Canadian winter.

It's running pretty smooth so far. Will do a UOA when done.

BTW, Canadian Tire has this oil on sale this week, 26$ for a 5 liters + 10$ MIR.


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