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MOTUL Specific VW 508.00 Unboxing #5271628 11/19/19 09:14 AM
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Just arrived last night. I will have the dealer install this oil when I get my inspection sticker in December.

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Re: MOTUL Specific VW 508.00 Unboxing [Re: ARCOgraphite] #5271633 11/19/19 09:21 AM
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Have you confirmed that the dealer will do it?


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Re: MOTUL Specific VW 508.00 Unboxing [Re: ARCOgraphite] #5271693 11/19/19 10:28 AM
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Get a VOA on it.


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Re: MOTUL Specific VW 508.00 Unboxing [Re: ARCOgraphite] #5271718 11/19/19 10:50 AM
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Excellent. Our Lordco Auto Parts sells Motul but I have not seen the 508 here yet. Looks like a scoop!

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Re: MOTUL Specific VW 508.00 Unboxing [Re: ARCOgraphite] #5271747 11/19/19 11:27 AM
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The French make great oil. Either Motul or Total, for all we know they meet specs they say they do.
ECSTuning sent me a batch of Castrol 508 0w20 with an OE style oil filter recently and seem to be reliable after a period where it seems everybody complained about their customer service. I think they turned that bad behavior around now !

Re: MOTUL Specific VW 508.00 Unboxing [Re: paoester] #5271815 11/19/19 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by paoester
The French make great oil. Either Motul or Total, for all we know they meet specs they say they do.
ECSTuning sent me a batch of Castrol 508 0w20 with an OE style oil filter recently and seem to be reliable after a period where it seems everybody complained about their customer service. I think they turned that bad behavior around now !

I am buying for years from ECS and never, never had an issue. If something was wrong they would promptly react. That being siad, I never had issue with other too like AutohausAZ, FCP etc.


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Re: MOTUL Specific VW 508.00 Unboxing [Re: ARCOgraphite] #5271827 11/19/19 01:03 PM
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I've also ordered for years from ECS Tuning without issue.

Why the Motul over the Castrol Professional?


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Nice what’s it going in ARCO?


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Re: MOTUL Specific VW 508.00 Unboxing [Re: edyvw] #5271957 11/19/19 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by edyvw
I am buying for years from ECS and never, never had an issue. If something was wrong they would promptly react. That being siad, I never had issue with other too like AutohausAZ, FCP etc.

https://jalopnik.com/spying-on-employees-screwing-buyers-what-went-wrong-a-1827474482
Looks like there was a company management problem. They bought Pelican, etc,, a long story.
Should be fine now.

Re: MOTUL Specific VW 508.00 Unboxing [Re: paoester] #5272253 11/20/19 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by paoester
Originally Posted by edyvw
I am buying for years from ECS and never, never had an issue. If something was wrong they would promptly react. That being siad, I never had issue with other too like AutohausAZ, FCP etc.

https://jalopnik.com/spying-on-employees-screwing-buyers-what-went-wrong-a-1827474482
Looks like there was a company management problem. They bought Pelican, etc,, a long story.
Should be fine now.

I heard about that. But again, I never had issues.


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Re: MOTUL Specific VW 508.00 Unboxing [Re: buster] #5272365 11/20/19 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by buster
Nice what’s it going in ARCO?

The VW. Dealer put unknown bulk oil during first service and wouldn't show me label on tank, I've lost 3 MPG running average and the turbo spool up is sluggish and noisy. Prior the FF felt thin but easy to get high MPG over 40 MPG when lugging around town.

Ill report if this fixes it of not. The Motul is on the low side for a 20, like the Subaru stuff.


copied off the MOTUL TDS dated 04/17

STANDARDS ACEA A1 / B1
APPROVALS VW 508 00 – 509 00
PORSCHE C20


The Porsche C20 specification is very demanding for the lubricant in terms of oil film resistance. It
applies to all PORSCHE engines requiring this standard, currently Porsche Macan R4

Drain interval: according to manufacturers’ recommendations and to be adapted to your own use.
MOTUL SPECIFIC 508 00 509 00 0W-20 can be mixed with synthetic or mineral oils.
Before use always refer to the owner manual of the vehicle.
PROPERTIES
Color Visual Green
Viscosity grade SAE J 300 0W-20
Density at 20°C (68°F) ASTM D1298 0.833
Viscosity at 40°C (104°F) ASTM D445 38.5 mm2/s
Viscosity at 100°C (212°F) ASTM D445 7.8 mm2/s
Viscosity HTHS at 150°C (302°F) ASTM D4741 2.5 mPa.s
Viscosity Index ASTM D2270 179
Pour point ASTM D97 -52°C / -62°F
Flash point ASTM D92 222°C / 432°F
Sulfated ash ASTM D874 0.79% weight
TBN ASTM D2896 8.3 mg KOH/g

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Re: MOTUL Specific VW 508.00 Unboxing [Re: BMWTurboDzl] #5272369 11/20/19 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by BMWTurboDzl
Have you confirmed that the dealer will do it?

Not yet, but they will do most anything. They even let me under the car when they were doing the rear spring recall. They have just been "cagey" about the oil the used on my first service. The MOTUL is VW 508.00 / 509.00 Porsche C20 approved so they shouldn't have any quibbles.
They may charge me for a full OC service, regardless of BYO lube.

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Re: MOTUL Specific VW 508.00 Unboxing [Re: UG_Passat] #5272391 11/20/19 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by UG_Passat
Get a VOA on it.

I may get a UOA on whats in the sump now since its a mystery.

I might at least have them show me that the dumped oil is flourescent under UV like Castrol Professional would be.

I don't care about a VOA on the Motul. It is known as areal synthetic (majority PAO**), and the modern additive packages are a mystery we cant unravel so why pretend.

**See the 62degF below zero pour -point on the TDS posted in this thread.

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Re: MOTUL Specific VW 508.00 Unboxing [Re: ARCOgraphite] #5272746 11/20/19 02:34 PM
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I posted VOA for Motul and Total, and there is a good 3rd party study done on some VW508 oils here: https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/foru...5332/4/which-508-00-oil-would-you-choose

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Originally Posted by ARCOgraphite
I may get a UOA on whats in the sump now since its a mystery.

I might at least have them show me that the dumped oil is flourescent under UV like Castrol Professional would be.


UV fluorescence disappears very quickly in use so is unlikely to show up in an end-of-service oil sample, even if it was there to start with. If the oil is a genuine, VW-approved 508 00/509 00 oil it should have Zr in it, which isn't routinely tested in UOAs.


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