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Fram Extra Guard now rated to 10k miles #5273129 11/20/19 08:47 PM
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At my work (Canadian Tire), seeing new Fram ExtraGuard (orange can) boxes that say they are rated to 10k miles, or 16k km.

They sit right beside Fram ToughGuard filters that say the same thing.

Is the ToughGuard being squeezed out, and now we will just have ExtraGuard and the Extended Guard (synthetic) filters?

Anyone else seen this?


2010 Kia Soul 2U - 2.0L I-4, auto; 149k miles.
Castrol Edge (black bottle) 5W-30; Fram TG 9688.

2009 Pontiac G5 - 2.2 I-4, auto, 121k miles.
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Re: Fram Extra Guard now rated to 10k miles [Re: addyguy] #5273137 11/20/19 08:51 PM
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New boxes are coming across the line-up. New ToughGuards are now 15 k rated ...

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/5266905/new-fram-boxes#Post5266905


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Re: Fram Extra Guard now rated to 10k miles [Re: addyguy] #5273140 11/20/19 08:56 PM
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Ah, missed that. Thank-you.


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2009 Pontiac G5 - 2.2 I-4, auto, 121k miles.
Oil/filter TBD
Re: Fram Extra Guard now rated to 10k miles [Re: addyguy] #5273145 11/20/19 09:02 PM
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Not sure if that’s the plan, could be … Today, when I went to get a little 3614 for the mower … the delta between TG and XG was smaller than the delta between TG and Fram Ocan … Got an XG and will leave it on a full year

Re: Fram Extra Guard now rated to 10k miles [Re: addyguy] #5273164 11/20/19 09:33 PM
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What about the new Fram Extra Guards that are painted all BLACK. I've seen the black PH7317 on Amazon. Are they the motorcycle versions?


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Re: Fram Extra Guard now rated to 10k miles [Re: addyguy] #5273185 11/20/19 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by addyguy
At my work (Canadian Tire), seeing new Fram ExtraGuard (orange can) boxes that say they are rated to 10k miles, or 16k km.

They sit right beside Fram ToughGuard filters that say the same thing.

Is the ToughGuard being squeezed out, and now we will just have ExtraGuard and the Extended Guard (synthetic) filters?

Anyone else seen this?


It will be when EG gets rated a 99% at 20 microns.


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Re: Fram Extra Guard now rated to 10k miles [Re: addyguy] #5273221 11/20/19 11:40 PM
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I wouldn't feel comfortable running and Extra Guard for 10k even with the silicone upgrade... but then again we have Supertechs rated for 10k miles also.

Re: Fram Extra Guard now rated to 10k miles [Re: addyguy] #5273244 11/21/19 01:27 AM
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Imma still run these economies ( under $5 ) filter type for 5-6 month or 5k miles which ever come first .

Re: Fram Extra Guard now rated to 10k miles [Re: addyguy] #5273293 11/21/19 04:40 AM
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First the ADBV upgrade on the PH and now this. Seems like the TG is going to be phased out in the future.


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Re: Fram Extra Guard now rated to 10k miles [Re: addyguy] #5273349 11/21/19 07:10 AM
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Does that come with a price increase? If I were a gambling man I'd say yes.


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Re: Fram Extra Guard now rated to 10k miles [Re: GMBoy] #5273369 11/21/19 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by GMBoy
I wouldn't feel comfortable running and Extra Guard for 10k even with the silicone upgrade... but then again we have Supertechs rated for 10k miles also.


Your feelings can't overrule the facts


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Re: Fram Extra Guard now rated to 10k miles [Re: Linctex] #5273425 11/21/19 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Linctex
Your feelings can't overrule the facts


Agree.

Re: Fram Extra Guard now rated to 10k miles [Re: addyguy] #5273448 11/21/19 09:22 AM
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IMHO its all about marketing.

Economy/Regular/Premium

EG/TG/XG

87/89/93 Octane

Conventional/Semi Syn/Full Syn

Almost every product on every shelf has a generic vs mid grade vs premium.

Re: Fram Extra Guard now rated to 10k miles [Re: Linctex] #5274045 11/21/19 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by GMBoy
I wouldn't feel comfortable running and Extra Guard for 10k even with the silicone upgrade... but then again we have Supertechs rated for 10k miles also.


Your feelings can't overrule the facts



Correct. Fact is there are better filters to use than the Fram for the money....

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Re: Fram Extra Guard now rated to 10k miles [Re: addyguy] #5274060 11/21/19 09:39 PM
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95% @20 microns, silicone ADBV for $3.88 every day price at Walmart. What are these better filters for the money?


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