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0W30 with MB 229.52 and VW 507 for Canadians #5273184 11/20/19 10:12 PM
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Looks like Motomaster is pulling out the stops for European motor oil. This just arrived in the shelf. Enjoy.

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Re: 0W30 with MB 229.52 and VW 507 for Canadians [Re: Snagglefoot] #5273220 11/20/19 11:38 PM
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Hmmm ...

This looks VERY SIMILAR to Pennzoil Euro LX 0W30.


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Re: 0W30 with MB 229.52 and VW 507 for Canadians [Re: geeman789] #5273229 11/21/19 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by geeman789
Hmmm ...

This looks VERY SIMILAR to Pennzoil Euro LX 0W30.


Also QSUD Euro LX, which according to the data sheet, is identical to the Pennzoil. I would be surprised if this Motomaster was any different.

Re: 0W30 with MB 229.52 and VW 507 for Canadians [Re: Snagglefoot] #5273261 11/21/19 02:48 AM
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Re: 0W30 with MB 229.52 and VW 507 for Canadians [Re: Snagglefoot] #5273294 11/21/19 04:45 AM
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And here is the Pennzoil 0w30 LX:

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Re: 0W30 with MB 229.52 and VW 507 for Canadians [Re: Snagglefoot] #5273749 11/21/19 03:21 PM
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Wait, this whole "meets or exceeds" language: does that mean these oils are approved by those manufacturers or just that the oil company strives to meet the spec but may not necessarily be approved by MB or VW et al?

It seems to me that "meets or exceeds" is different from "approved for use in ....."

Am I missing the forest for the trees?


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Re: 0W30 with MB 229.52 and VW 507 for Canadians [Re: andreigbs] #5273756 11/21/19 03:29 PM
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If you're asking about the Motomaster product, the Mercedes Benz approvals are likely actual given they are worded properly in accordance with MB requirements. However they do not show up on the most current BeVo listing so there is no way to easily verify it. The VW approvals are not on the current Audi listing, but not all VW approvals are on that list nor is the listing as current as the MB one.

The Pennzoil Platinum product is listed on BeVo for the Mercedes Benz approvals shown.


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Re: 0W30 with MB 229.52 and VW 507 for Canadians [Re: Snagglefoot] #5273781 11/21/19 03:51 PM
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I see. So, trust....but verify.


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Re: 0W30 with MB 229.52 and VW 507 for Canadians [Re: Snagglefoot] #5273814 11/21/19 04:39 PM
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I think that there is the catch if oil is "re-bottled"....then it only meets those requirements...

When in ORIGINAL (shell) package it has approvals...

Its the same with my Tech9 5w30 in a sig...I am pretty sure that it is just re-bottled Shell oil...but since it is re-bottled it only meets those approvals...


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Re: 0W30 with MB 229.52 and VW 507 for Canadians [Re: Snagglefoot] #5273829 11/21/19 05:00 PM
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Yes, approvals are specific to the brand regardless of how the oil got in the container or where it was produced.


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Re: 0W30 with MB 229.52 and VW 507 for Canadians [Re: Snagglefoot] #5273854 11/21/19 05:29 PM
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Approvals are supposed to be specific to the label, yet this Motomaster re-bottled Shell Helix Pennzoil stuff never got the memo on that.
Both say "Made in Germany".


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Re: 0W30 with MB 229.52 and VW 507 for Canadians [Re: paoester] #5274934 11/22/19 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by paoester
Approvals are supposed to be specific to the label, yet this Motomaster re-bottled Shell Helix Pennzoil stuff never got the memo on that.
Both say "Made in Germany".

They aren't just supposed to be, they are. Of course the lists may just need to be updated which is what I'm guessing. Motomaster wouldn't fudge approvals like that, would they?


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Well, it does say recommended for. So if the original Shell Helix Ultra C2/C3 is the one with the actual approval, I can see how the Pennzoil, QS and MM versions don't specifically state it.

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Originally Posted by Jimmy_Russells
Well, it does say recommended for. So if the original Shell Helix Ultra C2/C3 is the one with the actual approval, I can see how the Pennzoil, QS and MM versions don't specifically state it.

For me the issue would be with the Mercedes Benz approvals. Those are worded the way they are supposed to be for actual approvals, not recommendations.


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Re: 0W30 with MB 229.52 and VW 507 for Canadians [Re: kschachn] #5276679 11/24/19 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by kschachn
Originally Posted by Jimmy_Russells
Well, it does say recommended for. So if the original Shell Helix Ultra C2/C3 is the one with the actual approval, I can see how the Pennzoil, QS and MM versions don't specifically state it.

For me the issue would be with the Mercedes Benz approvals. Those are worded the way they are supposed to be for actual approvals, not recommendations.


The bottle says ''formulated to meet or exceed,'' it doesn't say they are formal approvals. The wording is largely irrelevant at that point.

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