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Winter tires for Tacoma 4x4 #5272653 11/20/19 01:12 PM
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I'm finally breaking the German Vehicle trend by ordering a Japanese Truck. (Well, American-made, as they make it abundantly clear in all their marketing). The truck will replace the 4Motion Passat for trips to the mountains for skiing.

When it comes to car rubber, I love my Nokian Hakkapeliittas with studs for winter driving. The Passat handles like it's on rails in the snow with that setup.

What do you guys use for dedicated winter tires on trucks? Skinny? Studded? Something I'm missing?

I have the ability to ad-hoc swap wheels and tires for non-snow driving, so this would be a dedicated bad-weather setup. Mostly snowed-in unplowed highway and on-road use. Not looking to go mudding or 4-wheeling with a brand new truck.


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Re: Winter tires for Tacoma 4x4 [Re: spavel6] #5272668 11/20/19 01:21 PM
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I have Nokian Rotiiva A/T on my Sierra year round. Does just fine in the snow. If I had two sets of rims, I would stick with Hakkapeliittas in the winter.


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Re: Winter tires for Tacoma 4x4 [Re: spavel6] #5272682 11/20/19 01:30 PM
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Hakkapelliittas- hands down.

And pickups have terrible weight distribution- throw some weight in the bed.

I’ve got Nokians on my Tundra, for the record.

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Re: Winter tires for Tacoma 4x4 [Re: spavel6] #5272695 11/20/19 01:41 PM
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Any thoughts on how narrow to go?

The stock rubber will be the Dunlop GrandTrek AT20 P265/65R17 110S SL

I was debating either getting a 16" wheel and tire combo or 17". I'd love to get steelies for the winter, as I think the look would be pretty awesome, but there are so many take-off Tacoma alloys on CL..


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Re: Winter tires for Tacoma 4x4 [Re: spavel6] #5272705 11/20/19 01:54 PM
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I have Blizzak DM-V2 on my '06 Lexus GX-470. It did well according to my son when he had it for a year in Houghton, MI (Upper Peninsula).

I have Michelin's and Continental's on our other cars (VW family). They all work well-the common denominators are all vehicles are AWD and the tires and 'studless ice & snow.'

In Chicago area, I only have them for the ice. Snow doesnt typically phase me in the amounts we get.

Re: Winter tires for Tacoma 4x4 [Re: spavel6] #5272716 11/20/19 02:06 PM
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Skinnier and studded would be helpful.


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Re: Winter tires for Tacoma 4x4 [Re: spavel6] #5272728 11/20/19 02:19 PM
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I run snowflake stamped AT's + common sense + 4x4 when needed. Not as good as dedicated snow tires but I've survived MN winters over and over. Knock on wood.


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Re: Winter tires for Tacoma 4x4 [Re: spavel6] #5272730 11/20/19 02:20 PM
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If we're talking about a Tacoma, you can easily run a 245/75-17. You can also pick up a set of FJ Cruiser black steel wheels fairly cheaply too. I run this combo year round on my 4Runner with Michelin LTX MS2's.


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Re: Winter tires for Tacoma 4x4 [Re: spavel6] #5272737 11/20/19 02:26 PM
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The sizes I am currently debating are:
245/75R16 -0.3% Diameter
235/85R16 +3.8% DIameter
245/75R17 +3% Diameter
or 245/70R17 -0.3% Diameter

Any thoughts on LT vs P tires? Will I notice a harsher ride with the LTs?

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Re: Winter tires for Tacoma 4x4 [Re: spavel6] #5272796 11/20/19 03:32 PM
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I'm a fan of Goodyear Duratracs.

I'm on my second set. My brother has set on his Jeep and my mom's 'Yoda is getting them this weekend.


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Re: Winter tires for Tacoma 4x4 [Re: spavel6] #5272808 11/20/19 03:50 PM
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Re: Winter tires for Tacoma 4x4 [Re: spavel6] #5272930 11/20/19 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by spavel6
I'm finally breaking the German Vehicle trend by ordering a Japanese Truck. (Well, American-made, as they make it abundantly clear in all their marketing). The truck will replace the 4Motion Passat for trips to the mountains for skiing.

When it comes to car rubber, I love my Nokian Hakkapeliittas with studs for winter driving. The Passat handles like it's on rails in the snow with that setup.

What do you guys use for dedicated winter tires on trucks? Skinny? Studded? Something I'm missing?

I have the ability to ad-hoc swap wheels and tires for non-snow driving, so this would be a dedicated bad-weather setup. Mostly snowed-in unplowed highway and on-road use. Not looking to go mudding or 4-wheeling with a brand new truck.


It won't do as good as Passat in snow, regardless of tires.
I would stick with Michelin or Bridgestone. Personally, I would go with Xi2.
Nokian's do good in snow and ice, IMO third class in everything else.


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Re: Winter tires for Tacoma 4x4 [Re: spavel6] #5273000 11/20/19 06:46 PM
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skinny is better for sure + using the minus formula where smaller diameter rims + taller sidewalls works. i usually downside a little + have no issues as long as all 4 are the same. rubber compounds are better than ever unless you go cheap + as noted pickups lite rears are not a plus, weight helps plant the tires + heavier vehicles ever older RWDS were always better with REAL snow tyres, always a smart choice.

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I'd love to get steelies for the winter, as I think the look would be pretty awesome, but there are so many take-off Tacoma alloys on CL.


Yes, and if you are up there that much, the steel will start to rust before long. I'd get alloys for the winter set - I did in the past.

I'd find alloy take-offs you like in EITHER 16 or 17, whatever you find you like, then get the 245/75-16 or 245/70-17. It won't make a ton of difference between them. The odo/speedo always annoyed me slightly when I ran 265/70-16 on my originally-equipped 245/70-16 SUV. I went back to 245 for the last set. I'm shopping for tires for it again now and will likely go w/255/70-16 to fill the wheel well a little better since its lifted, and split the difference. An LT rating would indeed be stiffer and unless you need it for towing/loading (camper, 5th wheel, serious hauling), I wouldn't rush to go that way.

Black Friday tire deals should drop this weekend or next week, so I'm waiting for that to pull the trigger - keep that in mind. Like Benji said - rubber compounds these days are really, really good. I drove around for fun in all that deep snow we had last winter on 2/16" Toyo Open Country ATs and they were amazingly good (I used to live in Vermont so I do really know snow). Oh, and you really need to plan to weight that bed as mentioned.

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Originally Posted by spavel6
I'm finally breaking the German Vehicle trend by ordering a Japanese Truck. (Well, American-made, as they make it abundantly clear in all their marketing). The truck will replace the 4Motion Passat for trips to the mountains for skiing.

When it comes to car rubber, I love my Nokian Hakkapeliittas with studs for winter driving. The Passat handles like it's on rails in the snow with that setup.

What do you guys use for dedicated winter tires on trucks? Skinny? Studded? Something I'm missing?

I have the ability to ad-hoc swap wheels and tires for non-snow driving, so this would be a dedicated bad-weather setup. Mostly snowed-in unplowed highway and on-road use. Not looking to go mudding or 4-wheeling with a brand new truck.



Literally any tire with the 3 peak mountain snowflake symbol will outperform an all season by a large margin.

I wouldn't bother with studs in Seattle, honestly. I don't even run them up here anymore, and our winters can be best described as apocalyptic. They ride and handle badly, tear up the roads and the only real benefit they give you is on solid ice.

Just get what you can afford and don't worry about it too much. Trust me, people run way cheaper tires than what you're considering up here through weather that would shut down Seattle for a month and there's no problem.


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