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Highway driving - Cabin noise and hearing protection #5270404 11/18/19 12:04 AM
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I have started to notice that long trips on the interstate (speeds 75MPH or higher) really leave my head/ears feeling fatigued and worn. No different than flying on a plane and hearing the engines humming away the entire time.

Admittedly my Toyota truck with AT-looking tire tread isn't helping the situation, but I've gotten similar outcomes in smaller crossover SUVs and some cars. Road and engine noise are quite high at interstate speeds.


When I fly I typically wear noise cancelling Bose earbuds, so I gave those a shot while driving and was surprised how well it works. 90% of the droning sound is blocked, I can still hear music playing on the radio, and I can still pick up outside noises.

The earbuds are just dangling in my lap with the noise cancelling turned on - not plugged into anything so it's not as if I'm oblivious to the world.


Are there any better approaches to what I'm doing besides making my next vehicle purchase a Cadillac with heavy noise dampening? I do plan on going with a quieter tire as well once my current set wears out.

Re: Highway driving - Cabin noise and hearing protection [Re: Reddy45] #5270407 11/18/19 12:13 AM
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Short of pulling some of the interior, adding dynamat, and going to a quieter tire that’s about all you can do. That being said... I love how quiet my 300 is. The van is pretty loud.


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Re: Highway driving - Cabin noise and hearing protection [Re: Reddy45] #5270412 11/18/19 12:34 AM
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Any chance you have air leakage through the windshield or door seals? When I purchased my 2002 Lincoln 7 yrs ago I noticed some extra noise in the front cabin. Bought the car with the stipulation than anything wrong with the windshield seal (or moon roof sealing) would be on the seller's dime. As it turned out there was a windshield seal issue that contributed quite a bit of extra cabin noise. New windshield and seal fixed the issue. Now quiet as can be.


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Re: Highway driving - Cabin noise and hearing protection [Re: Reddy45] #5270421 11/18/19 01:22 AM
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Even if they're "just" noise cancelling, there's some parts where wearing headphones while driving is illegal. Could be an uphill battle explaining to a law enforcement officer or judge that the headphones weren't of a variety that blocked out important exterior-to-the-car noises.


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Re: Highway driving - Cabin noise and hearing protection [Re: pitzel] #5270444 11/18/19 02:57 AM
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Originally Posted by pitzel
Even if they're "just" noise cancelling, there's some parts where wearing headphones while driving is illegal. Could be an uphill battle explaining to a law enforcement officer or judge that the headphones weren't of a variety that blocked out important exterior-to-the-car noises.


In my state anything that distracts or limits your ability to operate in a "safe" manner is a potential ticket. In any case I don't think they'd pull you over just for that.. there's usually some other moving violation. But none the less you do risk the ticket if wearing headphones. I personally wouldn't wear headphones or earbuds while driving but to each his own. Your car, your (potential) ticket.

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Re: Highway driving - Cabin noise and hearing protection [Re: Reddy45] #5270468 11/18/19 04:42 AM
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Every state has different laws about wearing headphones or earbuds while driving but you weren't asking the legality of using them Don't understand how earbuds in your lap would do anything but that isn't likely to get you a ticket. Maybe have music on to distract from the tires droning?


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Re: Highway driving - Cabin noise and hearing protection [Re: Reddy45] #5270486 11/18/19 05:34 AM
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There is where late model Ram trucks shine. They are luxury car quiet on the freeway unless the dumb owner wants a loud exhaust and/or cold air intake.
I test drove one.
https://www.consumerreports.org/pickup-trucks/2019-ram-1500-first-drive-review/


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Re: Highway driving - Cabin noise and hearing protection [Re: skyactiv] #5270499 11/18/19 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by skyactiv
There is where late model Ram trucks shine.


I recently rented a Ram Limited and was disappointed at the level of road noise at highway speed. Maybe it was the pavement or the 20" low-pro tires?


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Re: Highway driving - Cabin noise and hearing protection [Re: Reddy45] #5270523 11/18/19 06:48 AM
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My '07 Accord has high road noise. The RT43 tires helped a lot compared to the original tires, but it's still noisy compared to my Buick or Impala. I used foam earplugs in our noisy Windstar van we used to own.


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Re: Highway driving - Cabin noise and hearing protection [Re: Reddy45] #5270544 11/18/19 07:19 AM
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I feel like wearing noise cancelling headphones while driving is a dangerous idea.

The road noise in some cars will actually give me a headache on a long drive. My BMW is super quiet inside, my Wrangler is not. The Jeep has mostly wind noise on the highway, which is annoying at times but not ridiculous. I can't stand Hondas anymore though. I did an hour long trip in my mom's 2011 Fit once and it was terrible. Not really any wind noise but the tires (fairly new General RT43's) sounded like mud terrains and seemed to howl above 20 mph. The tires have always been loud in that car, no matter what brand/type are put on it. Even my sister's Acura 3.2TL while being much quieter inside than the Fit still has very noticeable tire noise even with Michelins.

What Toyota truck do you have? My buddy's 2008 Tacoma really howled at anything above 35 mph. We thought it was the tires initially but it had a bad wheel bearing. Replaced the wheel bearing and it is MUCH quieter inside.


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Re: Highway driving - Cabin noise and hearing protection [Re: Reddy45] #5270583 11/18/19 08:16 AM
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I’ve worn my Bose noise-cancelling headphones a lot while commuting. I got them for planes and trains, but they work just as well in a car or pickup, and so long as they’re only cancelling noise and not being used as headphones, they don’t reduce your awareness of externals sounds, IMO.


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Originally Posted by bulwnkl
I’ve worn my Bose noise-cancelling headphones a lot while commuting. I got them for planes and trains, but they work just as well in a car or pickup, and so long as they’re only cancelling noise and not being used as headphones, they don’t reduce your awareness of externals sounds, IMO.



Precisely. A lot of the concerns here may be from people who haven't worn these while driving. I can still hear horn honks, doors closing, etc.

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Originally Posted by 69GTX
Any chance you have air leakage through the windshield or door seals? When I purchased my 2002 Lincoln 7 yrs ago I noticed some extra noise in the front cabin. Bought the car with the stipulation than anything wrong with the windshield seal (or moon roof sealing) would be on the seller's dime. As it turned out there was a windshield seal issue that contributed quite a bit of extra cabin noise. New windshield and seal fixed the issue. Now quiet as can be.


Quite possible since I had to get a replacement windshield earlier this year. It doesn't leak water, though, so asking the shop to rip it out to find an air leak may be unwarranted.

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Originally Posted by jeepman3071
I feel like wearing noise cancelling headphones while driving is a dangerous idea.

The road noise in some cars will actually give me a headache on a long drive. My BMW is super quiet inside, my Wrangler is not. The Jeep has mostly wind noise on the highway, which is annoying at times but not ridiculous. I can't stand Hondas anymore though. I did an hour long trip in my mom's 2011 Fit once and it was terrible. Not really any wind noise but the tires (fairly new General RT43's) sounded like mud terrains and seemed to howl above 20 mph. The tires have always been loud in that car, no matter what brand/type are put on it. Even my sister's Acura 3.2TL while being much quieter inside than the Fit still has very noticeable tire noise even with Michelins.

What Toyota truck do you have? My buddy's 2008 Tacoma really howled at anything above 35 mph. We thought it was the tires initially but it had a bad wheel bearing. Replaced the wheel bearing and it is MUCH quieter inside.


2015 Tacoma. I don't believe the wheel bearings would be worn out yet as it only has 35k miles of light driving.

Re: Highway driving - Cabin noise and hearing protection [Re: Reddy45] #5270753 11/18/19 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Reddy45
Originally Posted by 69GTX
Any chance you have air leakage through the windshield or door seals? When I purchased my 2002 Lincoln 7 yrs ago I noticed some extra noise in the front cabin. Bought the car with the stipulation than anything wrong with the windshield seal (or moon roof sealing) would be on the seller's dime. As it turned out there was a windshield seal issue that contributed quite a bit of extra cabin noise. New windshield and seal fixed the issue. Now quiet as can be.


Quite possible since I had to get a replacement windshield earlier this year. It doesn't leak water, though, so asking the shop to rip it out to find an air leak may be unwarranted.


Mine didn't leak water either. But it was clear to me there was extra noise in the cabin that shouldn't be there. It helped that I owned another identical car before I got that one.

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