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Re: MOTORCRAFT FL-500S CUT OPEN [Re: MParr] #5231580 10/05/19 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by MParr
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It’s right there in the TSB. Over one quart per 3,000 miles. But, each step in the TSB must be followed to get that engine. If it were my truck, I would certainly be trying to get a new engine.


Yep, I know the 1 qt in 3000 miles is in the TSB, that's why I made the comment. It's hard to believe from the standpoint that most automakers say up to 1 qt in 1000 miles is acceptable. Knowing how Ford tries to get out of warranty work, it's surprising knowing how other makers spec oil useage.

Re: MOTORCRAFT FL-500S CUT OPEN [Re: ZeeOSix] #5231994 10/06/19 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by ZeeOSix
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Isn’t there a TSB on the 2.7 for oil consumption?
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Perhaps there is... but the truck in question is a 5.0 Coyote engine


Ford TSB on 2018 F-150 with the 5.0L V8 oil consumption. See attached PDF file.

TSB only addresses 2018s, but not sure if it's been updated to include 2019s ... might be possible. Ford dealers should know.

MAJOR work for the repair ... long block replacement. eek


Sorry, don’t know where i got 2.7 from...
??? crzy


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Re: MOTORCRAFT FL-500S CUT OPEN [Re: 53' Stude] #5232177 10/06/19 04:11 PM
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The replacement long block that the dealers are installing in the trucks that are oil burners .... what’s different about that engine that’s gona solve the problem or is it crap shoot and just hope it’s a better engine. If it’s the fix for the problem why isn’t that replacement engine being used on the production line.

Re: MOTORCRAFT FL-500S CUT OPEN [Re: kstanf150] #5232213 10/06/19 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by kstanf150
The replacement long block that the dealers are installing in the trucks that are oil burners .... what’s different about that engine that’s gona solve the problem or is it crap shoot and just hope it’s a better engine. If it’s the fix for the problem why isn’t that replacement engine being used on the production line.



Darn good question. When I heard they were going to plastic oil pans; I almost threw up in my mouth. Another world champion engineer there


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Re: MOTORCRAFT FL-500S CUT OPEN [Re: 53' Stude] #5232222 10/06/19 05:05 PM
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The replacement long block that the dealers are installing in the trucks that are oil burners .... what’s different about that engine that’s gona solve the problem or is it crap shoot and just hope it’s a better engine. If it’s the fix for the problem why isn’t that replacement engine being used on the production line.



Darn good question. When I heard they were going to plastic oil pans; I almost threw up in my mouth. Another world champion engineer there


And the twist in oil plug 😳😳😳😳

Re: MOTORCRAFT FL-500S CUT OPEN [Re: 53' Stude] #5236293 10/10/19 07:50 PM
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Thanks for the C&P.
Motorcraft oil filters are the BEST oil filters in the industry!


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Re: MOTORCRAFT FL-500S CUT OPEN [Re: BlueOvalFitter] #5236351 10/10/19 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueOvalFitter
Thanks for the C&P.
Motorcraft oil filters are the BEST oil filters in the industry!


MC the BEST 😳😳
That’s a BIG bold statement on this forum

Hang on to your hat BlueOvalFitter
The storm is Coming !!!!!😳😳😳😫

Re: MOTORCRAFT FL-500S CUT OPEN [Re: kstanf150] #5236359 10/10/19 08:59 PM
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^^^ Statements like that aren't worth responding to anymore. wink Motorcrafts are pretty decent if they don't tear, but certainly not the "best in the industry".

Re: MOTORCRAFT FL-500S CUT OPEN [Re: 53' Stude] #5236372 10/10/19 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 53' Stude
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Did you notice any leaking around the oil pan mounting flange. I know there have been some problems with sealing on those things.



I did not. Dealer he has been using decided thicker is better. He is seriously thinking of trading it on a new Explorer.

Its bone dry underneath so......


LOL thicker is better shows another Stealership not willing to stand behind their warranty.

My 2004 Corolla with 136,000 miles plus uses less oil than that in 12 OCI's

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Re: MOTORCRAFT FL-500S CUT OPEN [Re: kstanf150] #5237080 10/11/19 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by kstanf150
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Thanks for the C&P.
Motorcraft oil filters are the BEST oil filters in the industry!


MC the BEST 😳😳
That’s a BIG bold statement on this forum

Hang on to your hat BlueOvalFitter
The storm is Coming !!!!!😳😳😳😫

Yeah, it's always good to get the old BP up there a few clicks.
But, it's true, MC oil filters are the BEST!

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Re: MOTORCRAFT FL-500S CUT OPEN [Re: BlueOvalFitter] #5237214 10/11/19 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueOvalFitter
Originally Posted by kstanf150
Originally Posted by BlueOvalFitter
Thanks for the C&P.
Motorcraft oil filters are the BEST oil filters in the industry!


MC the BEST 😳😳
That’s a BIG bold statement on this forum

Hang on to your hat BlueOvalFitter
The storm is Coming !!!!!😳😳😳😫

Yeah, it's always good to get the old BP up there a few clicks.
But, it's true, MC oil filters are the BEST!

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I want say best around here, but I’ve used em for years and years and years without any know issues
Recently have cut open a few and didn’t see anything wrong

Re: MOTORCRAFT FL-500S CUT OPEN [Re: 53' Stude] #5237241 10/11/19 04:53 PM
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MC oil filters may be the best but Purolator will put a tear in your eye.


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Re: MOTORCRAFT FL-500S CUT OPEN [Re: TheLawnRanger] #5237430 10/11/19 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by TheLawnRanger
MC oil filters may be the best but Purolator will put a tear in your eye.

Funny, but sadly true?

Re: MOTORCRAFT FL-500S CUT OPEN [Re: 53' Stude] #5269348 11/16/19 06:18 PM
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2019 5.0 calls for 8.8 quarts. That changed in 2018, 2011-2017 5.0 called for 7.7 quarts


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Re: MOTORCRAFT FL-500S CUT OPEN [Re: bullwinkle] #5270381 11/17/19 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by bullwinkle
That's a smooth move, then it a serious cold snap hits & the 10W40 won't flow, Ford bounces his warranty. We've had 3.7 Transit engine issues ourselves, Ford does all they can to get out of fixing them.

I remember when 10W-40 was for winter and 20W-50 for summer!


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