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Let’s see how this looks after 4 seasons #5268048 11/15/19 11:04 AM
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Decided to go with the Fram XG3614 on my Kohler Command 15hp...I’m gonna try it for four seasons and see how it goes. I will be changing out the oil every season with fresh QSUD 10W30. She’s an old girl being from 95-99 but she’s a trooper. Any suggestions or comments of this time frame?

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Re: Let’s see how this looks after 4 seasons [Re: Bettez88] #5268080 11/15/19 11:45 AM
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If I am going to change oil , I am going to change the filter , too .


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Re: Let’s see how this looks after 4 seasons [Re: WyrTwister] #5268082 11/15/19 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by WyrTwister
If I am going to change oil , I am going to change the filter , too .

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Re: Let’s see how this looks after 4 seasons [Re: WyrTwister] #5268087 11/15/19 11:52 AM
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Why if it’s rated for 20k?


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Re: Let’s see how this looks after 4 seasons [Re: Bettez88] #5268089 11/15/19 11:52 AM
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That is a filter with a lot of area on a small motor. It probably is a bypass filter too. Most of the upside down/sideways on mowers are. Dirty filters within reason filter better.

I bet it is fine after 4 years. I bet there are a lot of those 10+ years old with the original oil and filter

Re: Let’s see how this looks after 4 seasons [Re: ragtoplvr] #5268091 11/15/19 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by ragtoplvr
That is a filter with a lot of area on a small motor. It probably is a bypass filter too. Most of the upside down/sideways on mowers are. Dirty filters within reason filter better.

I bet it is fine after 4 years. I bet there are a lot of those 10+ years old with the original oil and filter



I’m treating each season like it’s 5k miles. So by that logic, 4 years equals 20k. I plan on putting these on my wife’s and my car too and running them for 4 OCI of 5k...should still be fine


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Re: Let’s see how this looks after 4 seasons [Re: Bettez88] #5268131 11/15/19 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Bettez88
Why if it’s rated for 20k?


Interesting I'd like to see a UOA on that after your first change.
How often do you run your generator?
Number of average hours a quarter.
Hours of run time on a generator are lots different than miles on a car. What is the suggested oil change hours on yours?
I know my daughters Kohler says 50 hours.

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Re: Let’s see how this looks after 4 seasons [Re: JohnnyJohnson] #5268154 11/15/19 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Bettez88
Why if it’s rated for 20k?


Interesting I'd like to see a UOA on that after your first change.
How often do you run your generator?
Number of average hours a quarter.
Hours of run time on a generator are lots different than miles on a car. What is the suggested oil change hours on yours?
I know my daughters Kohler says 50 hours.


I’ve never done a UOA so I haven’t a clue on how to go about doing it


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Re: Let’s see how this looks after 4 seasons [Re: Bettez88] #5268161 11/15/19 01:16 PM
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I replaced a filter on a Ryan verticutter with a Kohler CH11. Someone installed a filter for a Honda GX series V-twin on it and the engine to my surprise didn't spray oil for however long it was on.

I put on a PH3614, an Ultra might be better choice for OPE as are Wix or Puro(Motorcraft) due to metal end caps. OPE unlike cars do spend a lot time in storage and my concern is that the media will eventually warp.

Re: Let’s see how this looks after 4 seasons [Re: nthach] #5268182 11/15/19 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by nthach
I replaced a filter on a Ryan verticutter with a Kohler CH11. Someone installed a filter for a Honda GX series V-twin on it and the engine to my surprise didn't spray oil for however long it was on.

I put on a PH3614, an Ultra might be better choice for OPE as are Wix or Puro(Motorcraft) due to metal end caps. OPE unlike cars do spend a lot time in storage and my concern is that the media will eventually warp.


I’m not as concerned with the ultra because it has the steel wire backing


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Re: Let’s see how this looks after 4 seasons [Re: WyrTwister] #5268254 11/15/19 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by WyrTwister
If I am going to change oil , I am going to change the filter , too .


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