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Re: Biobased Synthetic Motor Oil Using High-Oleic Soybean Oil [Re: wemay] #5267239 11/14/19 02:59 PM
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Buy soy futures, good for feeding chickens and making "synthetic" oil. So they hydrocrack it and make it synthetic? If not what process makes them call this natural product synthetic?

Re: Biobased Synthetic Motor Oil Using High-Oleic Soybean Oil [Re: burla] #5267261 11/14/19 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by burla
Buy soy futures, good for feeding chickens and making "synthetic" oil. So they hydrocrack it and make it synthetic? If not what process makes them call this natural product synthetic?

Probably the same one that makes them call polyalphaolefin synthetic when it is derived from ethylene which is produced from cracked natural hydrocarbons.


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Re: Biobased Synthetic Motor Oil Using High-Oleic Soybean Oil [Re: wemay] #5268043 11/15/19 10:58 AM
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The term "synthetic" refers not to the source, but to the process. As kschachn points out, ultimately it all came out of nature at some point.


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Re: Biobased Synthetic Motor Oil Using High-Oleic Soybean Oil [Re: wemay] #5268407 11/15/19 05:02 PM
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biosynthetic -
adjective Biochemistry.
of, relating to, or characterized by biosynthesis, the formation of chemical compounds by a living organism, or a laboratory process modeled after these reactions in living organisms.
of or relating to a substance produced by a biosynthetic process.

Originally Posted by Biolubricants:Rawmaterialschemical modificationsandenvironmentalbenefits
Basic properties and benefits of biolubricant
...The term biolubricants applies to all lubricants that are both rapidly biodegradable and non‐toxic to humans and aquatic environments. A biolubricant may be plant oil‐based (e.g., rapeseed oil) or derived from synthetic esters manufactured from modified renewable oils or from mineral oil‐based products 18, 20. Table 4 summarizes some of the benefits of biolubricants...

...The chemical modification of plant oils by addition reactions to the double bonds constitutes a promising manner of obtaining valuable commercial products from renewable raw materials. In order to use plant oil‐based lubricants with special additives, chemical modifications, de novo synthesis, breeding, and/or biotechnology play an important role. These methods improve the performance and stability of base oils in lubricating formulations...


From, https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/ejlt.200900205

The so called "Bio-Lubricants" today are actually mixtures of GroupIV, Group V esters, and bio-based oils.

Virgin vegetable oils cannot be used in an IC engine.


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