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Re: Who Makes the Best Class 8 "Semi" Truck These Days? [Re: GoldDot40] #5264850 11/12/19 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by GoldDot40
I have driven nearly all manufacturers that are used in the US except for a Western Star. From a driver's standpoint, you'll be hard pressed to beat the overall ride quality, turning radius, and fuel economy of a newer Volvo. I've had a 2013, 2015 and currently in a 2018 VNL day cab with a 425HP/1750 ft lbs D13. I pull a fuel tanker and it's loaded to the max 80K lbs every time its loaded. 80% of my loads are in the mountains and the iShift auto is spot-on for it's shift points.

From a mechanic's standpoint...they're one of the most hated trucks they see. Parts almost always have to be ordered. No room to do anything. It's packed tight under the hood. BUT...I can say....the disc brakes they're using on these trucks now are impressive. They work better than conventional drums that trucks have always used...and they last forever. I got this truck with just 600 miles on it 2 years ago. It's got 242,500 on it now and still has the original brakes on all 3 axles of the truck.


Do these trucks have engine brakes? I live in coal country and while all of the coal trucks, logging trucks, dump trucks seem to have endless jake brakes... i never hear any of the freight or tanker haulers using engine brakes on the same roads hauling the same weights.

On the subject of Volvo.. i know a few MACK owners (dump trucks)...that were loyal MACK owners for generations until Volvo switched everything up under the hood. I havent kept up with it but im sure MACK suffered the transition. I see less and less MACKs on the roads.

Re: Who Makes the Best Class 8 "Semi" Truck These Days? [Re: krismoriah72] #5264859 11/12/19 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by GoldDot40
I have driven nearly all manufacturers that are used in the US except for a Western Star. From a driver's standpoint, you'll be hard pressed to beat the overall ride quality, turning radius, and fuel economy of a newer Volvo. I've had a 2013, 2015 and currently in a 2018 VNL day cab with a 425HP/1750 ft lbs D13. I pull a fuel tanker and it's loaded to the max 80K lbs every time its loaded. 80% of my loads are in the mountains and the iShift auto is spot-on for it's shift points.

From a mechanic's standpoint...they're one of the most hated trucks they see. Parts almost always have to be ordered. No room to do anything. It's packed tight under the hood. BUT...I can say....the disc brakes they're using on these trucks now are impressive. They work better than conventional drums that trucks have always used...and they last forever. I got this truck with just 600 miles on it 2 years ago. It's got 242,500 on it now and still has the original brakes on all 3 axles of the truck.


Do these trucks have engine brakes? I live in coal country and while all of the coal trucks, logging trucks, dump trucks seem to have endless jake brakes... i never hear any of the freight or tanker haulers using engine brakes on the same roads hauling the same weights.

On the subject of Volvo.. i know a few MACK owners (dump trucks)...that were loyal MACK owners for generations until Volvo switched everything up under the hood. I havent kept up with it but im sure MACK suffered the transition. I see less and less MACKs on the roads.


Yep. The engine brake has 4 settings from light to heavy effect...then an automatic mode for when you have cruise control enabled. The main thing I don't like...and it's not exclusive to Volvo...is all the "nanny" features like distance alert, auto braking and lane departure warning. It's irritating.


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Re: Who Makes the Best Class 8 "Semi" Truck These Days? [Re: LoneRanger] #5264950 11/12/19 12:29 PM
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I'm not a truck driver, but volvo's are made assembles in my hometown by a bunch of drunks and druggies. Probably the same everywhere

Re: Who Makes the Best Class 8 "Semi" Truck These Days? [Re: blair] #5264962 11/12/19 12:42 PM
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I'm not a truck driver, but volvo's are made assembles in my hometown by a bunch of drunks and druggies. Probably the same everywhere

As good as they are...imagine how much better they could possibly be if the workers were all straight and sober...


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Re: Who Makes the Best Class 8 "Semi" Truck These Days? [Re: LoneRanger] #5265630 11/13/19 12:15 AM
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I've driven them all extensively, and swear by Paccar products, with a slight nod to Kenworth over Peterbilt. Inter-Trash-Tionals are the worst! Some have good powertrains, but the trucks themselves are a bucket of bolts; pretty much the truck equivalent of throwaway cars like Geo Metros. I'm honestly surprised International has stayed in business so long. Newer Macks are owned by, and now essentially rebranded Volvos. Freightliners from a comfort standpoint are nice, and they're cheap to own and operate, which is why you see them most commonly used by the mega carriers, but then again they don't typically hold up to extreme use very well.

For real, rock and roll hauling, nothing beats a Kenworth, especially the T800 or W900. My company has a small fleet of T800 daycabs and they get rode hard and put away wet every single day. With 70% of what we do being off road driving on some of the roughest terrain imaginable. Most other trucks would snap in half under the brutal conditions these things are put through. They're completely multipurpose, off road or OTR, a T800 has you covered! For being such a rugged truck, and equipped with Kenworth's 8 bag suspension, they ride really well all things considered and have excellent highway manners when you get off the dirt.


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Re: Who Makes the Best Class 8 "Semi" Truck These Days? [Re: blair] #5265959 11/13/19 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by blair
I'm not a truck driver, but volvo's are made assembles in my hometown by a bunch of drunks and druggies. Probably the same everywhere

Volvo is also building buses in NY State and Quebec - no one outside of Quebec/Vancouver(Canada, not WA)/NYC and Chicago buys NovaBus or Prevost. Prevost, however, seems to be popular with tour bus operators.

I've read VW via MAN has a major stake in International now.

Re: Who Makes the Best Class 8 "Semi" Truck These Days? [Re: LoneRanger] #5265972 11/13/19 12:32 PM
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Outside of the city, I see the big boys(Swift, JB Hunt, England and Walmart) mostly run Freightliner Cascadias or International Eagles. In the city, for box trucks I see an equal amount of Cummins-powered Freightliners and Hinos. Mixer and dump trucks seem to be mostly Peterbilt or Kenworth around here.

Re: Who Makes the Best Class 8 "Semi" Truck These Days? [Re: LoneRanger] #5266059 11/13/19 01:54 PM
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We have a new Mack Anthem at work and I really like it. It has good power, 12 speed automatic that actually shifts really well. It's doubtful that anyone could out drive the auto in real world situations unless they're just banging gears and using the jake to slow the engine down between shifts. They are that good. That being said, I like a manual tranny for liquid loads.


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It's hard to beat a W900 K-W or 379 Peterbilt. A favorite engine of mine was the Detroit Series 60 pre emissions. We did have a couple engines throw a rod though but most made it to 1,000,000 miles before they were traded or sold.


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Re: Who Makes the Best Class 8 "Semi" Truck These Days? [Re: Silverado12] #5266532 11/13/19 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Silverado12
It's hard to beat a W900 K-W or 379 Peterbilt. A favorite engine of mine was the Detroit Series 60 pre emissions. We did have a couple engines throw a rod though but most made it to 1,000,000 miles before they were traded or sold.

The 60 was a great engine, and that's coming from a lifelong devout CAT guy. N14 Cummins was good too.


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