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*NEW* DELO 600 ADF #5264523 11/11/19 07:48 PM
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Was the DELO 600 ADF thread deleted? I can't find it.

If it was can we start a new one? Please stay on topic so this one doesn't get deleted too. Thank you.

https://www.trucknews.com/transportation/chevron-unveils-a-lubricants-game-changer/1003095061/

https://www.chevronlubricants.com/en_us/home/products/delo-600-adf-15w-40.html

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Re: *NEW* DELO 600 ADF [Re: SavagePatch] #5264532 11/11/19 07:56 PM
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Was it deleted? I can’t imagine why, there wasn’t any ugliness that I saw. Regardless, I think the predominant thought was that this oil was probably not suitable for everyone and was probably designed with some next gen engine in mind.

Re: *NEW* DELO 600 ADF [Re: SavagePatch] #5264564 11/11/19 08:42 PM
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if u need it for your application, use, change it on time and move on.

its not rocket science any oil that meets what you need will work.

do u have a specific question?


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Re: *NEW* DELO 600 ADF [Re: SavagePatch] #5264578 11/11/19 09:00 PM
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I feel like they may be using Molyvan 855 in a pretty high concentration to make up the anti-wear. I can't wait to see how it does in Sequence IVA. That'll be the real test.


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Re: *NEW* DELO 600 ADF [Re: SavagePatch] #5264594 11/11/19 09:18 PM
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OP, you mean this:

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/5262966/1

Have to wonder how this would work in deposit-prone DI engines too.

Re: *NEW* DELO 600 ADF [Re: JHZR2] #5264607 11/11/19 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by JHZR2
OP, you mean this:

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/5262966/1

Have to wonder how this would work in deposit-prone DI engines too.



Yes, thank you! Doh! Sorry, I was looking in the HDEO forum. Please feel free to delete this thread.

Re: *NEW* DELO 600 ADF [Re: SavagePatch] #5264667 11/11/19 11:54 PM
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It's a new CK-4 rated diesel engine oil...

Given its radically different chemistry, I wonder how it is going to be measured against other HDEOs up to this point? Anyone care to comment?

Should be interesting!


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Re: *NEW* DELO 600 ADF [Re: SteveG4] #5264829 11/12/19 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by SteveG4
It's a new CK-4 rated diesel engine oil...

Given its radically different chemistry, I wonder how it is going to be measured against other HDEOs up to this point? Anyone care to comment?

Should be interesting!



When CK-4 first came out everyone hoarded up CJ4 because of the lower ZDDP...and the fear that engine wear would increase. Now there is an oil with no zddp..

So it begins again.

Re: *NEW* DELO 600 ADF [Re: SavagePatch] #5265017 11/12/19 12:50 PM
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They are reducing SA .6% to reduce DPF clogging. Is that a problem and how widespread is it??? I don't hear about it from the trucking industry. They used a lot of CJ oil with DPF's. Like to hear from those in the trucking industry.

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Originally Posted by krismoriah72
Originally Posted by SteveG4
It's a new CK-4 rated diesel engine oil...

Given its radically different chemistry, I wonder how it is going to be measured against other HDEOs up to this point? Anyone care to comment?

Should be interesting!



When CK-4 first came out everyone hoarded up CJ4 because of the lower ZDDP...and the fear that engine wear would increase. Now there is an oil with no zddp..

So it begins again.


Cannot argue that!

Most of us fear change. Though it appears that Chevron has been working on this new oil for several (many) years.
I'm sure NDA's were signed early on, and that engine and truck mfgrs haven't been left out of the loop.
We'll find out soon enough I suppose.


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Re: *NEW* DELO 600 ADF [Re: loneryder] #5265570 11/12/19 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by loneryder
They are reducing SA .6% to reduce DPF clogging. Is that a problem and how widespread is it??? I don't hear about it from the trucking industry. They used a lot of CJ oil with DPF's. Like to hear from those in the trucking industry.


DPF systems are not anymore a 'problem', but they are a high expense....
to have them, cost of parts, engineering etc.
to maintain them, DPF regen cycles (more fuel burned, lost power, nevermind the idiocy of burning more fuel to burn off the residue of burned fuel)
breakdowns from them and their systems

Anything that can minimize DPF regens etc should be a welcome development.....whether this is it....we'll see i guess.

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This has nothing to do with regens.

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Originally Posted by BillyE
This has nothing to do with regens.

Actually, it does, per this article where Chevron reps made specific indications regarding regens and DPFs
https://www.trucknews.com/transportation/chevron-unveils-a-lubricants-game-changer/1003095061/


If this lube product, along with things like FBCs (fuel borne catalysts) aimed at reducing PM (particulate matter) from the combustion process, all work towards lowering the ash and soot content in the exhaust stream, they could induce a significant improvement in reduced regen cycles. That in turn has implications such as greater fuel savings, and also the potential to make the DPF smaller (lighter and less costly) for any given expectation of performance and lifespan.


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The act of preventative maintenance, in and of itself, is FAR MORE important than brand/grade/base choices among lubes and filters.
- under maintaining something is akin to abuse/neglect; that can kill equipment by shortening the lifespan
- over maintaining something has never been proven to be anything but a waste of time and money
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Anything to help with DPF lifespan and operational improvements is very welcome news. I wonder if the current Delo CK-4 oils were a bit of a test bed given the lower metallic additive levels they have. Either way, it appears Chevron has figured out something new to provide what diesel engines need without traditional chemistry. Will be watching closely for fleet test results when they happen.


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Originally Posted by loneryder
They are reducing SA .6% to reduce DPF clogging. Is that a problem and how widespread is it??? I don't hear about it from the trucking industry. They used a lot of CJ oil with DPF's. Like to hear from those in the trucking industry.


Full on clogging isn't widespread, but excessive active re-gens that waste fuel are a problem for most, and these can be a restricted DPF and usually get blamed on something else operator based (excessive idling etc) to prevent any kind of warranty claim. Not having to remove the DPF for a mid life clean and bake (which Chevron claims may not be needed) is a cost saving as well.


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