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key fobs #5262018 11/08/19 07:35 PM
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The key fob that came with my Hyundai has no key just push the start button and go.
Soon after getting the car a coworker with the same type fob told me about the key inside and how to start the car in case of fob failure.
I had no clue about this.
The salesman that sold me the car at the Hyundai dealership never said a word.
Fast forward to today and a coworker that just bought a new Pathfinder 2 weeks ago said he would have no idea how to get in his vehicle if the no key fob failed.
I told him about the key inside.
We went out to his vehicle and he tried it and thanked me,I said go thank James he told me about it.
Again the salesman at the Nissan dealer did not tell him about the hidden key.
Do they all think this is common knowledge?
I know its in the owner's manual somewhere but some things should be told to the buyer before leaving the lot.


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Re: key fobs [Re: marine65] #5262023 11/08/19 07:43 PM
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Hopefully you got two. The manual should also tell you how the car will notify you that the battery needs replacing.

On my Mazda the light on the start button will be Amber when the battery starts getting weak. At a certain point a message comes up in the info window in the dash to replace the key. I just keep the batteries on hand.


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Re: key fobs [Re: marine65] #5262026 11/08/19 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by marine65
I know its in the owner's manual somewhere but some things should be told to the buyer before leaving the lot.


It's assumed the car will make it home before needing to know this information, but really, owners manuals are 500+ pages these days, you can't expect the salesman to explain every detail about the car. And don't people read owners manuals anymore?

Re: key fobs [Re: marine65] #5262035 11/08/19 07:54 PM
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Yes no way the dealer can tell you everything. When I picked my Pilot up the sales guy was trying to tell me so much stuff, I finally had to stop him. Told him I would read about it when I got home. The owner manuals all have an index you can refer to for specifics.


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Re: key fobs [Re: marine65] #5262058 11/08/19 08:28 PM
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I've bought used cars. Salesman, previous seller didn't go over anything. It's all in the manual and I know how to start the car if the battery in the key fob dies.

Re: key fobs [Re: marine65] #5262061 11/08/19 08:29 PM
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Yep, I know the salespeople mentioned nothing about this with my recent 2019 Pathfinder purchase, but I was already familiar with this style Nissan FOB. Regardless, there's no way the darling bride would figure it out. LOL


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Re: key fobs [Re: marine65] #5262309 11/09/19 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by marine65

I know its in the owner's manual somewhere but some things should be told to the buyer before leaving the lot.


Ya'll can't figure out something that simple for yourself? It's pretty common knowledge, and not hard to figure out for yourself if you don't know.

How in-depth should the vehicle training be? Do you need to be shown how to open the doors? Use the turn signals? Turn on the lights?

Re: key fobs [Re: Fawteen] #5262361 11/09/19 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Fawteen
Originally Posted by marine65

I know its in the owner's manual somewhere but some things should be told to the buyer before leaving the lot.


Ya'll can't figure out something that simple for yourself? It's pretty common knowledge, and not hard to figure out for yourself if you don't know.

How in-depth should the vehicle training be? Do you need to be shown how to open the doors? Use the turn signals? Turn on the lights?


Some things are not common knowledge for everyone.
I was driving a 2006 Sentra with no high tech at all.
Now I get a 2018 Elantra thats like a foreign country full of high tech I never saw before.
Yeah a little help was needed.
Plus I'm 72 years old and not exactly a techie.
There was a learning curve to figure this car out.


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Re: key fobs [Re: marine65] #5262367 11/09/19 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by marine65
Originally Posted by Fawteen
Originally Posted by marine65

I know its in the owner's manual somewhere but some things should be told to the buyer before leaving the lot.


Ya'll can't figure out something that simple for yourself? It's pretty common knowledge, and not hard to figure out for yourself if you don't know.

How in-depth should the vehicle training be? Do you need to be shown how to open the doors? Use the turn signals? Turn on the lights?


Some things are not common knowledge for everyone.
I was driving a 2006 Sentra with no high tech at all.
Now I get a 2018 Elantra thats like a foreign country full of high tech I never saw before.
Yeah a little help was needed.
Plus I'm 72 years old and not exactly a techie.
There was a learning curve to figure this car out.





I’m a little younger but when we picked up the Mazda we were shown a few important features but the salesman strongly recommended that we spend time reading the manual to get the full benefits and learn how to customize our driving experience.

The manuals of yesterday might have had 30-50 pages. Our Mazda manual is several hundred pages along with two supplements. It’s like a phone book.

I’m still learning things about this car.


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Re: key fobs [Re: marine65] #5262372 11/09/19 09:21 AM
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I rented an Audi A-3 last weekend with push button start and the start/stop feature. Yep, we are definitely in the transition period to keyless ignitions.


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Re: key fobs [Re: marine65] #5262487 11/09/19 12:21 PM
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If only there was a single source, with details, maybe even pictures, describing all these new features on a car.

Like a book, or something.

One that you could read, to learn about a new car, before you went to operate it.

For airplanes, for example, such a single source exists. It’s required reading before you learn to fly that airplane.

They call it a flight manual.

If only the car manufacturers would do the same thing!


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Some salesman do, some don't. very few people read the owner's manual - although my mom does - anytime she has a question she reads the book before asking or confirming with me.
some mfrs dont provide a printed owners manual - but give it to you on CD. not sure that everyone has a CD player anymore.... Many Apple products don't include them.


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Re: key fobs [Re: marine65] #5262542 11/09/19 01:52 PM
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CDs have been dead for a long time.

I have the owners manual downloaded on my iPhone as well as the print version. I like the iPhone version because you can search for specific topics and go right to them versus doing the index shuffle.


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Re: key fobs [Re: marine65] #5262549 11/09/19 02:10 PM
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The sales person is supposed to explain such things at the time of delivery. Usually they are suggested to spend an hour or so with the customer to help them familiarize themselves with the vehicle, that is part of their commission. When my mom bought her Fusion, the salesman set up her phone to the Sync system, helped her enter common addresses in the navigation, showed her how to use the keys and keyless entry, showed her where the spare tire was along with the funnel if she needed to add gas to the capless fill, among a bunch of other things.


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Re: key fobs [Re: Astro14] #5262823 11/09/19 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Astro14
If only there was a single source, with details, maybe even pictures, describing all these new features on a car.

Like a book, or something.

One that you could read, to learn about a new car, before you went to operate it.

For airplanes, for example, such a single source exists. It’s required reading before you learn to fly that airplane.

They call it a flight manual.

If only the car manufacturers would do the same thing!



My owners book is 446 pages.
I'm not reading all that.


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