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Havoline Pro DS 10W-30; 2004 Corolla #5261758 11/08/19 01:27 PM
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This is on the OCI I just completed on my 2004 Corolla on 10/29/19
6764 miles over 90% of the driving during this time was sever service.

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Last edited by dnewton3; 11/09/19 11:45 PM.

2004 Corolla 140080
Out: Havoline Pro DS 10w-30 Purolator PureOne 10-29-19 136457
In: Pennzoil Platinum HM 5W-20 ST 4386
2006 Duramax 77077
Out: T6 5W-40 XG9100 73909
In: Rotella Dino PH9100 11-3-19
Re: Havoline Pro DS 10W-30 [Re: JohnnyJohnson] #5261780 11/08/19 01:46 PM
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Looks like "the box" is a good choice for that engine --


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Re: Havoline Pro DS 10W-30 [Re: JohnnyJohnson] #5261786 11/08/19 01:49 PM
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A nice series of UOAs.

Can you describe your driving so I can understand what you consider severe service?


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Re: Havoline Pro DS 10W-30 [Re: JLTD] #5261787 11/08/19 01:51 PM
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I will add one small note to that this is the Corolla's highest usage of oil. It jumped from its normal half cup in 7K miles to a half quart in just under 7K miles.


2004 Corolla 140080
Out: Havoline Pro DS 10w-30 Purolator PureOne 10-29-19 136457
In: Pennzoil Platinum HM 5W-20 ST 4386
2006 Duramax 77077
Out: T6 5W-40 XG9100 73909
In: Rotella Dino PH9100 11-3-19
Re: Havoline Pro DS 10W-30 [Re: CharlieBauer] #5261788 11/08/19 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by CharlieBauer
A nice series of UOAs.

Can you describe your driving so I can understand what you consider severe service?


70 to 90% in town driving.
I only had one good stretch of Freeway driving on this OCI that was a trip to Pendleton, OR and back home a total of 56o miles.

Last edited by JohnnyJohnson; 11/08/19 01:54 PM.

2004 Corolla 140080
Out: Havoline Pro DS 10w-30 Purolator PureOne 10-29-19 136457
In: Pennzoil Platinum HM 5W-20 ST 4386
2006 Duramax 77077
Out: T6 5W-40 XG9100 73909
In: Rotella Dino PH9100 11-3-19
Re: Havoline Pro DS 10W-30 [Re: JohnnyJohnson] #5261794 11/08/19 01:57 PM
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That’s a good report and the oil had some life left as well. Looks like a winner considering your driving routine.

Since you are in western WA, the traffic congestion is another factor to consider. While most metro areas experience traffic this area is one of the worst.


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Re: Havoline Pro DS 10W-30 [Re: JohnnyJohnson] #5261852 11/08/19 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyJohnson
I will add one small note to that this is the Corolla's highest usage of oil. It jumped from its normal half cup in 7K miles to a half quart in just under 7K miles.


There is a good possibility that this 'usage' would abate if you kept running this oil....I've seen this happen.
I have a 2008 Corolla with the same 1ZZFE engine....I usually change the oil around 5K so I see no usage....but I think it would
use about the same amount as yours if I went 7K....I wonder how these 1ZZFE's do on 5w20 since they were backspec'd?


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Re: Havoline Pro DS 10W-30 [Re: PimTac] #5261854 11/08/19 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by PimTac
That’s a good report and the oil had some life left as well. Looks like a winner considering your driving routine.

Since you are in western WA, the traffic congestion is another factor to consider. While most metro areas experience traffic this area is one of the worst.



I agree. It looks like a winner to me.


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Re: Havoline Pro DS 10W-30 [Re: JohnnyJohnson] #5261888 11/08/19 04:21 PM
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May I ask why the 10W30 instead of the recommended 5W30 (might even be back specced to 5W20)? I maintain three 1.8 Matrix/Corolla 1.8s in my family (‘06, & 2 ‘07s), they never had any issues with 5W30 nor 5W20?


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Re: Havoline Pro DS 10W-30 [Re: bullwinkle] #5261905 11/08/19 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by bullwinkle
May I ask why the 10W30 instead of the recommended 5W30 (might even be back specced to 5W20)? I maintain three 1.8 Matrix/Corolla 1.8s in my family (‘06, & 2 ‘07s), they never had any issues with 5W30 nor 5W20?


Because when I bought it yes it was marked down two bucks cheaper than 5w-30 Pro DS.
My car has not imploded or burst into flames. I used it for my summer OCI but really here on the wet side of WA I could run that oil the year around.

Oh and my 10/29/19 OCI is Pennzoil 5W-20 HM. Why because it was $4 a Jug after sale and rebate.

Last edited by JohnnyJohnson; 11/08/19 04:55 PM.

2004 Corolla 140080
Out: Havoline Pro DS 10w-30 Purolator PureOne 10-29-19 136457
In: Pennzoil Platinum HM 5W-20 ST 4386
2006 Duramax 77077
Out: T6 5W-40 XG9100 73909
In: Rotella Dino PH9100 11-3-19
Re: Havoline Pro DS 10W-30 [Re: JohnnyJohnson] #5261931 11/08/19 05:27 PM
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Nice UOA Johnny.. looks like 7500 is very doable w/that lube... and proof positive that you don't necessarily need a fancy grp4 oil with gobs of moly to achieve low wear rates. I'd stick with it.. you got a winner on your hands.👍

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Impressive results for city driving. How long is a regular city drive?


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Re: Havoline Pro DS 10W-30 [Re: zorobabel] #5261959 11/08/19 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by zorobabel
Impressive results for city driving. How long is a regular city drive?


3 to 28 miles it varies I'm retired


2004 Corolla 140080
Out: Havoline Pro DS 10w-30 Purolator PureOne 10-29-19 136457
In: Pennzoil Platinum HM 5W-20 ST 4386
2006 Duramax 77077
Out: T6 5W-40 XG9100 73909
In: Rotella Dino PH9100 11-3-19
Re: Havoline Pro DS 10W-30 [Re: Mad_Hatter] #5261964 11/08/19 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Mad_Hatter
Nice UOA Johnny.. looks like 7500 is very doable w/that lube... and proof positive that you don't necessarily need a fancy grp4 oil with gobs of moly to achieve low wear rates. I'd stick with it.. you got a winner on your hands.👍



I think I'll know for sure if I ever get another 200K on the Corolla.


2004 Corolla 140080
Out: Havoline Pro DS 10w-30 Purolator PureOne 10-29-19 136457
In: Pennzoil Platinum HM 5W-20 ST 4386
2006 Duramax 77077
Out: T6 5W-40 XG9100 73909
In: Rotella Dino PH9100 11-3-19
Re: Havoline Pro DS 10W-30 [Re: JohnnyJohnson] #5262047 11/08/19 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyJohnson
I will add one small note to that this is the Corolla's highest usage of oil. It jumped from its normal half cup in 7K miles to a half quart in just under 7K miles.

That's the main reason I dumped Havoline ProDs early. In all my lawn equipment I am having to add oil where none before and in Caravan it dropped not to mention fuel mileage. Seemed like oil was breaking down. Changed at 6 month interval on Caravan and will change lawn equipment next spring before yard work. Was going 2 years on equipment or 50 hours but since used up left over from 5w30 box I will just change. Was 1 year oil change on Caravan.

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