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14 Focus M1 Extended Dilema #5259490 11/05/19 09:08 PM
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At last year's Autozone closeout I found a jug of M1 Extended once-a-year 5-20 that I put in the other half's 82k Focus. It was $10! I'm at 88k, and I just don't know if I can stand the idea of leaving that very black oil in there for the winter. The partner loves the remote start, and will run it 20-40 minutes before leaving for work. The colder it is, the longer it runs. I can't blame him as the engine barely uses any fuel.

Dare I change it? I picked up a jug of Motorcraft 5-20 tonight, so I'm ready to go at a moment's notice. I even have a Blackstone bottle in the basement if I can stand to run the current oil out for a while longer...

What do I do??

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Re: 14 Focus M1 Extended Dilema [Re: antonmnster] #5259493 11/05/19 09:09 PM
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if its a "dilemma" change it.


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Re: 14 Focus M1 Extended Dilema [Re: antonmnster] #5259498 11/05/19 09:18 PM
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The oil is made to go the distance as advertised but only if the engine will let it.


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Re: 14 Focus M1 Extended Dilema [Re: antonmnster] #5259500 11/05/19 09:19 PM
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IIRC Ford recommends a 10K OCI?
You're at 6k ish, and what you describe sounds like severe service, just change it before you get a Minnesota blizzard.


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Re: 14 Focus M1 Extended Dilema [Re: antonmnster] #5259504 11/05/19 09:21 PM
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Change it.

Re: 14 Focus M1 Extended Dilema [Re: antonmnster] #5259518 11/05/19 09:30 PM
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You got your $10 out of it … change it before it gets colder

Re: 14 Focus M1 Extended Dilema [Re: antonmnster] #5259522 11/05/19 09:42 PM
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Our Honda Pilot has remote start, and in the winter, it gets warmed up for 10 minutes twice a day. And, the winter trips are short. The oil turns very black quickly, and STINKS of gasoline after about 3-4000 miles, and there is sometimes condensation goop on the filler cap.

I would just change it out, and maybe shorten the oil change interval a bit. The fact that you are thinking about it seems to indicate you want to change it, so just do it ! grin

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Re: 14 Focus M1 Extended Dilema [Re: antonmnster] #5259555 11/05/19 10:46 PM
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I think you would be fine, only 6 k on it..but 20-40 minutes is a bit extreme, within 7-10 min it would perfectly warm. If that was the case you could get away with it. Even if you change it, I would change it again by March if you are letting it idle that long frequently.


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All that idling puts you into severe service, so definitely change it!


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Re: 14 Focus M1 Extended Dilema [Re: antonmnster] #5259624 11/06/19 03:32 AM
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I always look at it like...what's a little while longer? Are we talking another couple thousand miles? Another month?

I'd be ok with leaving it in there for another month or so, then I'd change it.

Re: 14 Focus M1 Extended Dilema [Re: Rand] #5259653 11/06/19 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Rand
if its a "dilemma" change it.

Exactly! If you get an oil related anxiety attack during the cold or after a snowfall and decide to change the oil, then what? wink


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Change it and give yourself some peace.

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Another for the change it crowd before it gets extremely cold. Peace of mind goes a longgggggggg way.


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Originally Posted by antonmnster
At last year's Autozone closeout I found a jug of M1 Extended once-a-year 5-20 that I put in the other half's 82k Focus. It was $10! I'm at 88k, and I just don't know if I can stand the idea of leaving that very black oil in there for the winter. The partner loves the remote start, and will run it 20-40 minutes before leaving for work. The colder it is, the longer it runs. I can't blame him as the engine barely uses any fuel.

Dare I change it? I picked up a jug of Motorcraft 5-20 tonight, so I'm ready to go at a moment's notice. I even have a Blackstone bottle in the basement if I can stand to run the current oil out for a while longer...

What do I do??




1. Change the oil.

2. Buy him good quality thermal underwear.


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Yes please change it before I start loosing sleep over it. 6k on any engine under server service is plenty.


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