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Liqui Moly Top Tec 5w-30: 5,127 OCI, '18A4 #5259318 11/05/19 07:15 PM
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My run of Liqui Moly Top Tec 5w-30 for an interval of 5,127 miles and ~7 months. 70% Hwy 30% city. Also did a TAN this time.

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Miles on oil       5,127            4,971         5,435              Universal
Miles on Unit      25,027           19,900        14,927             Averages
Sample Date        10/12/2019       3/3/2019      10/26/2018  
Make up oil        0                0             0
Oil Type           LM TT 5w-30      LM TT 5w-30   RL 5w-40

Aluminum            4                6             4                   4
Chromium            0                0             0                   1
Iron                5                8             22                  25
Copper              4                5             14                  4
Lead                0                0             0                   0
Tin                 0                0             0                   0
Molybdenum          10               64            465                 44
Nickel              0                0             0                   0
Manganese           1                2             5                   1
Silver              0                0             0                   0
Titanium            1                1             0                   3
Potassium           0                1             2                   3
Boron               4                7             56                  55
Silicon             4                6             15                  9
Sodium              3                6             14                  9
Calcium             1354            1606          2361                2326
Magnesium           6                9             5                   130
Phosphorus          606              726           1004                846
Zinc                701              809           1066                969
Barium              0                0             0                   0


SUS [email protected]  65.8           63.1          71.3
cST [email protected]  11.82          11.10         13.3
Flashpoint in F     395            395           395
Fuel %              <0.5           <0.5          <0.5
Antifreeze %        0.0            0.0           0.0
Water %             0.0            0.0           0.0
Insolubles %        0.2            0.2           0.2
TBN                 3.3            3.4           3.5
TAN                 5.7



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Re: Liqui Moly Top Tec 5w-30: 5,127 OCI, '18A4 [Re: Cardiobuck] #5259479 11/05/19 09:47 PM
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So, Liqui Moly, which is low in Moly, pounds Redline, which is high in Moly?
crzy

Go figure

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Re: Liqui Moly Top Tec 5w-30: 5,127 OCI, '18A4 [Re: Cardiobuck] #5259649 11/06/19 06:13 AM
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It looks good to me. 70% highway is easy on the engine and the oil. Nice report.


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Re: Liqui Moly Top Tec 5w-30: 5,127 OCI, '18A4 [Re: OilReport99] #5259663 11/06/19 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by OilReport99
So, Liqui Moly, which is low in Moly, pounds Redline, which is high in Moly?
crzy

Go figure


To be fair, the Redline oil was installed at about 10k miles and dumped at 15k. The slightly elevated metals in that earliest report were likely residual from break-in.

Re: Liqui Moly Top Tec 5w-30: 5,127 OCI, '18A4 [Re: RayCJ] #5259673 11/06/19 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by RayCJ
Originally Posted by OilReport99
So, Liqui Moly, which is low in Moly, pounds Redline, which is high in Moly?
crzy

Go figure


To be fair, the Redline oil was installed at about 10k miles and dumped at 15k. The slightly elevated metals in that earliest report were likely residual from break-in.

Exactly @ 10K miles on an engine odds are there are still break in metals being shed.


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Re: Liqui Moly Top Tec 5w-30: 5,127 OCI, '18A4 [Re: demarpaint] #5259716 11/06/19 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by demarpaint
Originally Posted by RayCJ
Originally Posted by OilReport99
So, Liqui Moly, which is low in Moly, pounds Redline, which is high in Moly?
crzy

Go figure


To be fair, the Redline oil was installed at about 10k miles and dumped at 15k. The slightly elevated metals in that earliest report were likely residual from break-in.

Exactly @ 10K miles on an engine odds are there are still break in metals being shed.


Maybe, but the higher iron is still in line with the universal average....


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Re: Liqui Moly Top Tec 5w-30: 5,127 OCI, '18A4 [Re: Cardiobuck] #5260030 11/06/19 04:29 PM
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There is no need to get defensive about Red Line.
Consider not just break in,
but also the "scavenger effect."

Now let's take Liquimoly with low moly, and disappearing moly. LOL.
SMH. And we hear complaints ad nauseam about Group III and XOM vs Castrol.

BTW, I read somewhere that Liquimoly is overrated.
Yet this is indeed a stellar report.
It must be the price.


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Re: Liqui Moly Top Tec 5w-30: 5,127 OCI, '18A4 [Re: RayCJ] #5260051 11/06/19 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by RayCJ
Originally Posted by OilReport99
So, Liqui Moly, which is low in Moly, pounds Redline, which is high in Moly?
crzy

Go figure


To be fair, the Redline oil was installed at about 10k miles and dumped at 15k. The slightly elevated metals in that earliest report were likely residual from break-in.


I understand. I also got 22ppm of Fe on RL on a 14k miles unit and 6k miles on the oil. Yet, the drop from 22 to 8 is noticeable. Good UOA.


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Re: Liqui Moly Top Tec 5w-30: 5,127 OCI, '18A4 [Re: Cardiobuck] #5260442 11/07/19 06:49 AM
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Nice, chalk one up for overrated LM! hahahahaah


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Re: Liqui Moly Top Tec 5w-30: 5,127 OCI, '18A4 [Re: Cardiobuck] #5260559 11/07/19 09:24 AM
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To be truthful, what evidence is there that this good UOA is due to the specific oil being used rather than engine design or operating conditions? Hasn't Blackstone shown that there is no statistically significant difference in UOA results between any appropriately rated oil?


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Re: Liqui Moly Top Tec 5w-30: 5,127 OCI, '18A4 [Re: jbutch] #5260635 11/07/19 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by jbutch
Originally Posted by demarpaint
Originally Posted by RayCJ
Originally Posted by OilReport99
So, Liqui Moly, which is low in Moly, pounds Redline, which is high in Moly?
crzy

Go figure


To be fair, the Redline oil was installed at about 10k miles and dumped at 15k. The slightly elevated metals in that earliest report were likely residual from break-in.

Exactly @ 10K miles on an engine odds are there are still break in metals being shed.


Maybe, but the higher iron is still in line with the universal average....

Yes it is, my point is this: Aside from telling if there is coolant getting into the oil, poor air filtration, or excess fuel getting into the oil, there isn't too much more to gather from a UOA with 10K miles on an engine. That topic has been discussed many times here over the years.


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Re: Liqui Moly Top Tec 5w-30: 5,127 OCI, '18A4 [Re: Cardiobuck] #5262414 11/09/19 10:27 AM
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Thank you! Very informative. TAN almost twice higher than TBN for just 5k miles, where 70% is highway driving.
I would not use this oil longer than you did, may be even dump it after 4.5k. Definitely not a long run oil.

P.S. I am still insisting that UOA without TAN useless. Pure illustration for "all or nothing".

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