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Re: Consistency of Fluid Film? [Re: JTK] #5310527 01/01/20 09:42 PM
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I just bought a gallon of woolwax to try out, and it is (based upon your photo), marginally more fluid than what Im seeing of the FF picture. FF when mixed is somewhat more fluid - but that's temperature dependent too.

Did you mix the FF before snapping that photo?

Woolwax looks to me like a great product to wipe all over with a foam paintbrush. Time will tell how it sprays.

Re: Consistency of Fluid Film? [Re: Railrust] #5311127 01/02/20 03:04 PM
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I like fluid film, but I don't exactly love it. Not sure how woolwax is, but fluid film does tend to wash away...I don't consider it a full year application, it needs to be done twice a year in my opinion.

But it's been good to me as long as I reapply it twice a year.


It's been maybe 5 weeks since I woolwaxed my Ram and like you say, i can see where areas that get directly blasted by water/mist would wear away in a matter of months or less. Could there still be some magical zinc or whatever left behind like Krown claims? I have no idea.

The way I think about it, it's the stagnant areas that will sneak up on you and rust, so that's were these fluid/grease like coatings work their magic the best.

The nice thing about owning the spray gun kit is you can hit what ever areas you want as often as you want. I store it all in a clean 5gal bucket with a lid so it's easy to grab when I need it. I zip lock bag the different wands. The stuff doesn't dry out and clog the works which is nice.


What I'd like to do is buy some cosmoline and just touch up a few "heavy traffic areas" on my frame...that stuff goes on wet and dries into a pretty durable wax. It's pretty expensive though...and it won't creep into all tight spots like a fluid film would.


The difference between FF and Cosomline (I use RP-342) is night and day. Gone is the smell, the mess, and the constant maintenance required using FF or oil. After a couple of coats you're pretty much good for years. I'm in the 4th winter with RP-342 covering the Escalade undercarraige, and the only thing I'm doing at this point is touching up tiny spots I missed or required additional coats. It does get a little tacky, creep and self heal in hot summer weather. Gets hard in the winter months. Which means the sand and soot won't build up, water and snow won't wash it off, salt won't penetrate. Which is good because you can see the results. You can see if the rust is bleeding through or active. Its not hidden under black soot or dirt. Which is what happened to me 2 weeks ago. The first time I've ever lost the brakes while driving in the Classic in my sig which has been oiled for its entire life. I bought it because of that. It looked great. But... Under the soot so thick it looked like a bees nest was rusted rear brake lines in back. I could not see it. The oil was moving around, but the buildup of dirt had absorbed the oil, allowing rust underneath.

Its not that expensive if you shop around. I buy a 9 pack of RP-342 12oz cans for $100 online. Thats $11 a can. The 11.75 FF cans you get at lowes are $10 ea. I've never had a dud can. I never seem to get every last drop out of a FF can.

Its not really a good idea to combine the Cosmoline or any wax with oil. it dilutes the strength and hampers Cosmolines ability to creep into the rust layers. You may get a chip or 2 if the oil is built up with dirt. Which is unfortunate because once you commit to oil its not easy to get the undercarriage clean. I'm having that struggle with the Classic in my signature. My Escalade undercarriage is beautiful now. Stays clean all winter. No additional rust. I just treated the Altima in my sig the other day. It looks great. Preserved outside under snow waiting to be used like a old WW2 rifle lol. We will see in the long run, maybe its more wishful thinking. But so far, its amazing.


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Re: Consistency of Fluid Film? [Re: JTK] #5312400 01/03/20 05:44 PM
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Just got some woolwax bottles. The woolwax is thick but flows and pours. FF is IMO slightly thinner than WW.

Something is not right with your FF.

Stir it well.

Edit: I think there are two types of FF, one more solid. Maybe you bought the thicker one? Liquid AR perhaps?

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Originally Posted by JHZR2
Just got some woolwax bottles. The woolwax is thick but flows and pours. FF is IMO slightly thinner than WW.

Something is not right with your FF.

Stir it well.

Edit: I think there are two types of FF, one more solid. Maybe you bought the thicker one? Liquid AR perhaps?



Could have been an older can maybe? I'm also thinking there is variations between batches of this product based on pics I've seen people post. I did stir mine with a paint stick.

I mail-ordered it from Advance Auto. It's the standard looking gallon can of FF. I've never seen any variations of labeling.

Regardless of how it looked, it sprayed very well with the standard (cheap) gun from kellsport products. I didn't try this gun with WW yet, but given how thick my FF is, I'm sure it would spray well.


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Re: Consistency of Fluid Film? [Re: JTK] #5314820 01/06/20 01:36 PM
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Just wondering how you guys are getting under your cars to spray? What method are you using to jack up your cars?


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Re: Consistency of Fluid Film? [Re: mez] #5314858 01/06/20 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by mez
Just wondering how you guys are getting under your cars to spray? What method are you using to jack up your cars?

My truck, I would park on uneven ground, and that would give me enough access to get under it. Throw on a paper paint suit and go to town.

My cars, those would require jacking up. I would lift and set back down on wood cribbing. The first time is kinda important to try to get as much as possible; later applications IMO is not as critical, as it's really trying to get the areas that are high wash. A lot can be accessed with minimal lifting on respray.

A few times I've done touchups in the wheelwells during tire rotation time. Since it'll be on a jack I won't get under it, but I'll spray all around and get as much of the suspension as I could.


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Originally Posted by mez
Just wondering how you guys are getting under your cars to spray? What method are you using to jack up your cars?

I drive up on ramps. Do the front half. Then back up on ramps for the back half.


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