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Oils With Most Moly and No Moly #5258998 11/05/19 09:26 AM
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Which of the major oils (those you can purchase in Walmart, NAPA, Autozone) have the most Moly? Which have no Moly?

I want to do an experiment on my own and run some OCI's with a "most Moly" oil and run another one with a "no moly" oil.

OK, I am getting caught up in the quest of the quietest oil...


'98 LEX LS400 300K
'02 4Runner 245K
'05 Lex LS430 85K
'07 Lex GX470 65K

Shell Gas and Truck & Supertech Full Syn HM
Toyota ATF's and Coolant
Amsoil Gear Oil and Grease
Re: Oils With Most Moly and No Moly [Re: Gebo] #5259005 11/05/19 09:41 AM
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VFS 5w30 has moly and a good shot of titanum plus the upper limits of zinc and phosphorus. They seem pretty quiet in my truck/car.


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Re: Oils With Most Moly and No Moly [Re: Gebo] #5259010 11/05/19 09:45 AM
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Most moly at walmart would be Rotella Gas Truck (not Rotella T6 diesel oil, the gas truck one only).
HDEO diesel engine oils many times have little to no moly. If they say motorcycle JASO MA on them, they don't have moly, & I thought some diesel oils said that, and of course motorcycle oils.
For "sound tests", viscosity should not be a variable. Magnatec has claimed a slightly quieter result in some of their marketing info, and those have normal moly and some titanium, with an organic friction modifier maybe.


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Re: Oils With Most Moly and No Moly [Re: Gebo] #5259062 11/05/19 11:05 AM
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Start your search at the PQIA web site.


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2000 4Runner 3.4 - SuperTech Syn 5w-30/Toyota
1997 B2500 Van 3.9 - M1 HM 10w-30/Mopar
1993 F150 4.9 - SuperTech Syn 5w-30/Motorcraft
Re: Oils With Most Moly and No Moly [Re: ka9mnx] #5259080 11/05/19 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by ka9mnx
Start your search at the PQIA web site.


From what I saw a lot of their info years old?

Last edited by Gebo; 11/05/19 11:43 AM.

'98 LEX LS400 300K
'02 4Runner 245K
'05 Lex LS430 85K
'07 Lex GX470 65K

Shell Gas and Truck & Supertech Full Syn HM
Toyota ATF's and Coolant
Amsoil Gear Oil and Grease
Re: Oils With Most Moly and No Moly [Re: Gebo] #5259123 11/05/19 12:18 PM
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The general consensus is gonna be SOPUS products,
and then Valvoline Products


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Re: Oils With Most Moly and No Moly [Re: Gebo] #5259139 11/05/19 12:45 PM
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Pennzoil and Quaker State.


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Quaker State Ultimate Durability 10W30
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Quaker State Advanced Durability 10W30

Re: Oils With Most Moly and No Moly [Re: GumbyJarvis] #5259143 11/05/19 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by GumbyJarvis
The general consensus is gonna be SOPUS products,
and then Valvoline Products

That might have been the case a couple of years ago.


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Re: Oils With Most Moly and No Moly [Re: Gebo] #5259146 11/05/19 12:49 PM
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If you really want to do a "noise study", then get Zepro 0w20 with 700 ppm moly (do not buy the dexos1 version, get this one:)
https://www.amazon.com/ZEPRO-30010095-95300C020-Medalist-Advanced-Fluid_Ounces/dp/B072QXMJBS
and its from Amazon for easy 2-day delivery for Prime Members or get it in a week, kinda easy to get I think.

Then, get a 0w20 with a "normal" low amount of moly at walmart, like SuperTech 0w20 or Mobil1 AFE 0w20 for comparison. Then there might be enough moly to make a difference in the test.

Actually you want to test the low-moly oil first so there isn't leftover moly from the Zepro. Test Zepro second.

(If you have a 5w30 engine, then simply add in 1 bottle of STP blue bottle oil treatment from walmart to make it a 5w30 and continue on.)


2019 VW Tiguan S 4Motion, Pennzoil Platinum 0w-20, VW Mann oil filter
Re: Oils With Most Moly and No Moly [Re: paoester] #5259157 11/05/19 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by paoester
If you really want to do a "noise study", then get Zepro 0w20 with 700 ppm moly (do not buy the dexos1 version, get this one:)
https://www.amazon.com/ZEPRO-30010095-95300C020-Medalist-Advanced-Fluid_Ounces/dp/B072QXMJBS.

But it has a 14% noack and only carries an API approval and not any euro's like ACEA, MB,VW aeiou, won't this grenade his engine?🤔

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Originally Posted by Gebo
Originally Posted by ka9mnx
Start your search at the PQIA web site.


From what I saw a lot of their info years old?

Yea, their data has gone rotten on the shelf but I noticed they did a new batch of test's this summer. Problem for me is most of their test's now are on 0w and 5w-20.


2005 Ranger 3.0 - SuperTech Syn 5w-30/Motorcraft
2000 4Runner 3.4 - SuperTech Syn 5w-30/Toyota
1997 B2500 Van 3.9 - M1 HM 10w-30/Mopar
1993 F150 4.9 - SuperTech Syn 5w-30/Motorcraft
Re: Oils With Most Moly and No Moly [Re: Gebo] #5259177 11/05/19 01:47 PM
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Pyb,Qsad,and FS appear to be clones,identical triplets per se. Exact same ppm of moly (around 170-180),same zddp,viscosity,tbn,etc.


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Quaker State Ultimate Durability 10W30
2012 Honda Accord Coupe EX-L 2.4,auto,San Marino Red
Quaker State Advanced Durability 10W30

Re: Oils With Most Moly and No Moly [Re: paoester] #5259180 11/05/19 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by paoester
If you really want to do a "noise study", then get Zepro 0w20 with 700 ppm moly (do not buy the dexos1 version, get this one:)
https://www.amazon.com/ZEPRO-30010095-95300C020-Medalist-Advanced-Fluid_Ounces/dp/B072QXMJBS
and its from Amazon for easy 2-day delivery for Prime Members or get it in a week, kinda easy to get I think.

Then, get a 0w20 with a "normal" low amount of moly at walmart, like SuperTech 0w20 or Mobil1 AFE 0w20 for comparison. Then there might be enough moly to make a difference in the test.

Actually you want to test the low-moly oil first so there isn't leftover moly from the Zepro. Test Zepro second.

(If you have a 5w30 engine, then simply add in 1 bottle of STP blue bottle oil treatment from walmart to make it a 5w30 and continue on.)


He’s looking for oils off the shelf at China Mart
They don’t sell Zepro

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Originally Posted by kstanf150
Originally Posted by paoester
If you really want to do a "noise study", then get Zepro 0w20 with 700 ppm moly (do not buy the dexos1 version, get this one:)
https://www.amazon.com/ZEPRO-30010095-95300C020-Medalist-Advanced-Fluid_Ounces/dp/B072QXMJBS
and its from Amazon for easy 2-day delivery for Prime Members or get it in a week, kinda easy to get I think.

Then, get a 0w20 with a "normal" low amount of moly at walmart, like SuperTech 0w20 or Mobil1 AFE 0w20 for comparison. Then there might be enough moly to make a difference in the test.

Actually you want to test the low-moly oil first so there isn't leftover moly from the Zepro. Test Zepro second.

(If you have a 5w30 engine, then simply add in 1 bottle of STP blue bottle oil treatment from walmart to make it a 5w30 and continue on.)


He’s looking for oils off the shelf at China Mart
They don’t sell Zepro

Paoester, as his name implies, specializes in the obscure and hard to find.😂.. I'm waiting for him to recommend some lube made from ester of Emu fat.😂

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Re: Oils With Most Moly and No Moly [Re: Gebo] #5259210 11/05/19 02:47 PM
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I had a similar request recently in this post.
https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/5255753/1

Zepro Adv Moly is an option if you want to buy online.
QSUD used to have ~170ppm moly in 0w-20, but for some reason i can't find it at wally world or even online in that grade.
I went with Shell Rotella Gas Truck 0W-20. It seems to have some shortcomings, but I'm giving it a shot.

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