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Problems with universal ATF in Volvos #5258424 11/04/19 02:56 PM
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Guy having problems with Castrol and Valvoline. Costs a few bucks less though. https://forums.swedespeed.com/showt...n&p=7441983&posted=1#post7441983 at post #100.

Re: Problems with universal ATF in Volvos [Re: atikovi] #5258437 11/04/19 03:09 PM
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Good data point. I took a 2002 Volvo S40 to over 200K with regular Toyota T-IV fluid changes. It's still serving the next driver. The Toyota T-IV was never more than $5-6 a quart from the Toyota dealer.

Re: Problems with universal ATF in Volvos [Re: atikovi] #5258447 11/04/19 03:16 PM
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I just did a full flush with Maxlife to replace the G 055 540 A2 (WS) inside the Touareg's Aisin at 80k miles and it shifts beautifully. I performed an adaptation reset when my fluid change was complete.

Did he?


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Re: Problems with universal ATF in Volvos [Re: atikovi] #5258465 11/04/19 03:30 PM
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My wife’s Volvo now has 250,000 miles on its original AW-55 transmission.

I would only recommend Toyota T-IV (or Mobil 3309, or an actual JWS-3309 fluid) for a car that had “lifetime fluid” and specified JWS-3309 fluid. Saving a few pennies, or trying to get a “better” fluid leads to trouble.

Further, the fluid level on the P2 chassis is notoriously hard to get right. 200ml separates low and overfilled and the level is very temperature sensitive. An IR gun, or Volvo’s VIDA diagnostic software, are very helpful in getting it right.

Her XC70, from the years known for transmission troubles, shifts perfectly.

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Re: Problems with universal ATF in Volvos [Re: atikovi] #5258498 11/04/19 04:04 PM
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Someone else on here had an issue they thought was caused by using Maxlife in an Aisin transmission, but turned out to be the level wasn't quite right. crzy

It also doesn't say which Transmax he used. Castrol uses the Transmax name for all their ATF. There is the popular Import Multi, which is a syn blend, and there is also a full synthetic Castrol. The syn blend might indeed be toast by 40k, while the full synthetic should last longer.

The best way to do it is probably when cold, first thing in the morning. Drain the ATF, measure it, and replace it with the exact same amount. Transmission dipsticks aren't always accurate.



Re: Problems with universal ATF in Volvos [Re: atikovi] #5258512 11/04/19 04:17 PM
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I’ve used Valvoline Import Multivehicle with success in a Volvos that require a JWS-3309.

It has a different viscosity than MaxLife, which meets Dex VI and Toyota WS.

The Import Multivehicle is both synthetic and actually meets JWS-3309. Or, it used to. Haven’t bought it in a while.

But the wrong level will make any fluid perform badly.

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Re: Problems with universal ATF in Volvos [Re: Astro14] #5258517 11/04/19 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Astro14
I’ve used Valvoline Import Multivehicle with success in a Volvos that require a JWS-3309.

It has a different viscosity than MaxLife, which meets Dex VI and Toyota WS.

The Import Multivehicle is both synthetic and actually meets JWS-3309. Or, it used to. Haven’t bought it in a while.

But the wrong level will make any fluid perform badly.

See, this is my thought as well. Though MaxLife says it is suitable for T-IV, it's clear to me that Import Multivehicle would have been the more appropriate fluid.


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Originally Posted by rooflessVW

See, this is my thought as well. Though MaxLife says it is suitable for T-IV, it's clear to me that Import Multivehicle would have been the more appropriate fluid.


This is why I have a problem with Valvoline.

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Originally Posted by AC1DD
Originally Posted by rooflessVW

See, this is my thought as well. Though MaxLife says it is suitable for T-IV, it's clear to me that Import Multivehicle would have been the more appropriate fluid.


This is why I have a problem with Valvoline.

I have had trouble finding people with anecdotes about import multi vehicle, but it seems everyone and their dog had put maxlife into something and that's why on top of the recommendation on the bottle, maxlife is consistently recommended by word of mouth. When someone attempts to do research on these atfs, the first thing that pops up when Valvoline import multi vehicle is looked up is the for sale bar. On this bar there is a quart of the import atf with 0 reviews, then maxlife with 210 reviews and almost 5 stars. The majority of people who don't go into the viscosities, add packs and friction modifiers of their specific atf look at the massive gap of usage and knowledge on the two and automatically go with maxlife because of the widespread experience.

Who can blame everyone for going with what we know more about when it is still recommended. Obviously the BITOG community digs a bit deeper usually to which I'd agree import multi vehicle looks like the more suitable fluid.

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE SHARE VALVOLINE IMPORT EXPERIENCES the only forums I can find of these are 2014 and 2012.

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I’ve owned two Volvo V70 wagons. Both received cooler line exchanges with JWS 3309 approved fluids every 30,000 with a drain and fill at 15,000. They shifted perfectly and still do. I’m in touch with the owner of one of the cars. It now has 225,000 miles. The transmission still shifts flawlessly.


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I love the guy complaining about the location of the AT dipstick, [censored] never buy a Volvo again, and in the same breath mentions how the BMW was better even though it doesnt even offer a dipstick.


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My AW71-SC shifts quite happily on a universal ATF.


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Re: Problems with universal ATF in Volvos [Re: HyundaiAbuser] #5258953 11/05/19 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by HyundaiAbuser
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE SHARE VALVOLINE IMPORT EXPERIENCES the only forums I can find of these are 2014 and 2012.

Thought I did that already...

In February of this year, at 240,000 miles, I completely flushed (cooler line exchange) the transmission of my wife’s Volvo XC. The car now has 250,000 miles on it and it shifts perfectly. It is the original transmission with a valve body that was rebuilt at 110,000.

I used Valvoline Import Multivehicle. It took 12 quarts. I carefully set the level when done.

So, here’s your 2019 anecdote with a picture of the exchange going on.

I should add that since we bought the car, in 2007 with 90,000 miles, it has only ever had JWS-3309 specification fluid. Mobil 3309. Toyota T-IV. Now the Valvoline import Multivehicle.

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Originally Posted by Astro14
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CAN SOMEONE PLEASE SHARE VALVOLINE IMPORT EXPERIENCES the only forums I can find of these are 2014 and 2012.

Thought I did that already...

In February of this year, at 240,000 miles, I completely flushed (cooler line exchange) the transmission of my wife’s Volvo XC. The car now has 250,000 miles on it and it shifts perfectly. It is the original transmission with a valve body that was rebuilt at 110,000.

I used Valvoline Import Multivehicle. It took 12 quarts. I carefully set the level when done.

So, here’s your 2019 anecdote with a picture of the exchange going on.

I should add that since we bought the car, in 2007 with 90,000 miles, it has only ever had JWS-3309 specification fluid. Mobil 3309. Toyota T-IV. Now the Valvoline import Multivehicle.

[Linked Image]

I appreciate the added detail and for your sharing. I just wish there were more people like you out there sharing this experience.


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I bought 5 jugs of Valvoline Import Multi-blah blah blah 5 years ago when AAP had it on clearance. Did 3 D&F's on my BMW 5HP-24 transmission (LT71141 fluid spec'd) every 35-40k miles, it ran buttery smooth. That tranny was very particular about fluid level, if you had it right is was sweet.


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