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Re: Fram Ultra, Napa Platinum, or Baldwin [Re: slacktide_bitog] #5257226 11/02/19 11:54 PM
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OP wants good efficiency, so the Wix XP/Napa Platinum isn't gonna rank well.

Re: Fram Ultra, Napa Platinum, or Baldwin [Re: ZeeOSix] #5257285 11/03/19 05:48 AM
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OP wants good efficiency, so the Wix XP/Napa Platinum isn't gonna rank well.


Exactly. Wix XP / NAPA Platinum is only 50% @ 20 IIRC.


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Re: Fram Ultra, Napa Platinum, or Baldwin [Re: littlehulkster] #5257373 11/03/19 08:53 AM
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It's hard to go wrong with the Fram Ultra, it's a top quality filter at an affordable price you can buy anywhere. To be honest, any of them will work fine, but the Fram is probably the cheapest of the 3.



+1. Go with the Ultra. Buy it from Rockauto (buying 3-5 to save to shipping). I buy 4-6 Ultra's for my two vehicles. I leave the Ultra on the Caravan for 2 Oci. On the Civic, I'll keep the filter on for 18-24 months. Make sure you use the 5% coupon code as well. The Ultra is around $10 CDN on Rockauto. At Canadian tire the Ultra is around $20 before taxes if not on sale.

I find with the Ultra the oil doesn't get totally black at the end of an OCI.

How many kms do you drive a year with the Mustang?

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Re: Fram Ultra, Napa Platinum, or Baldwin [Re: Scott351W] #5257380 11/03/19 08:57 AM
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Only danger with the Ultra is thin cans-as long as you don't catch any road debris, or have severe road salt/rust issues, the Ultra has the highest efficiency of the three. Baldwin has a stronger can, though, and the Wix XP/NAPA Platinum is pretty stout too (lousy efficiency, though).


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Re: Fram Ultra, Napa Platinum, or Baldwin [Re: Scott351W] #5257478 11/03/19 11:08 AM
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In the grand scheme of things, those three filters probably will have the similar performance to filter the oil.

One thing you need to understand with engineering is that they work with tolerances not absolutes.
So, batch to batch even with the same filter mfg and model, there are variances within a certain tolerance.

There is no best but there are sufficient.
They are all will last within your spec of OCI.


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Re: Fram Ultra, Napa Platinum, or Baldwin [Re: Scott351W] #5257490 11/03/19 11:26 AM
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Ultra FTW. I buy them in lots of 6 off of eBay for good prices, making using them a no-brainer for me.


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Re: Fram Ultra, Napa Platinum, or Baldwin [Re: Scott351W] #5257509 11/03/19 12:08 PM
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Fram Ultra, then Wix or Motorcraft

Re: Fram Ultra, Napa Platinum, or Baldwin [Re: Scott351W] #5257819 11/03/19 08:57 PM
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I usually put 6000 to 8000KM on my car per year. That's not a lot, but I still change the oil once a year. I don't usually go over a year. I want synthetic because of its cleaning properties and its ease of flowing in our winters here. Plus its just all around better oil. I work in an auto parts store, so I can get the Ultra at staff discount. I just wanted to know if the Wix/Napa can was any better.

Re: Fram Ultra, Napa Platinum, or Baldwin [Re: Scott351W] #5257840 11/03/19 09:31 PM
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I've never heard of anything that filters better than a Fram Ultra. Silicone anti drainback valve is a bonus, but they all have that. Only cheap oil filters have the old nitrile valves.
I like the double layer of filtering material in an Ultra with the wire frame backing. Durable, with performance. No contest.

Re: Fram Ultra, Napa Platinum, or Baldwin [Re: Scott351W] #5257879 11/03/19 10:53 PM
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The Baldwin filters are very well built but the Fram Ultra is also well built with better filtration. A few years ago I contacted Baldwin asking for filter efficiency ratings, flow rates etc. Their reps were very helpful and they sent me data on the filters I was using on my
work trucks and personal cars. The data for the Baldwin filters (made specifically for cars) was on par with the old style Purolator white filters and and Fram Extra Guard. Baldwin's are good, basic filters and will give you good service if you follow the OEM maintenance schedule.

Re: Fram Ultra, Napa Platinum, or Baldwin [Re: xtell] #5258089 11/04/19 08:49 AM
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I ran Baldwin filters in fleets for 25 years never failed in Industrial applications .

Re: Fram Ultra, Napa Platinum, or Baldwin [Re: Scott351W] #5259568 11/06/19 12:06 AM
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I noticed I had one spare Mobil 1 part 212 left. This was before they became the 212A. Do I still have one of the good Mobil 1 filters before they degraded a bit?

Re: Fram Ultra, Napa Platinum, or Baldwin [Re: Scott351W] #5285505 12/05/19 01:18 AM
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The Mobil 1 filter is top quality. Run it.
The Fram Ultra, standard black Wix filter, and the Baldwin will serve you well into the future.
The Ultra will filter better than the Wix or Baldwin, but will cost you a few more dollars. I doubt your Ford will notice the difference.


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Re: Fram Ultra, Napa Platinum, or Baldwin [Re: demarpaint] #5285516 12/05/19 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by demarpaint
Ultra FTW. I buy them in lots of 6 off of eBay for good prices, making using them a no-brainer for me.

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Ultra FTW. I buy them in lots of 6 off of eBay for good prices, making using them a no-brainer for me.

Originally Posted by demarpaint
Ultra FTW. I buy them in lots of 6 off of eBay for good prices, making using them a no-brainer for me.



I use to do this with Napa gold . But how much do you save in those 4-5 years worth of oil change . Unless you use on multi cars . I don’t like the idea of storage oil filter more then a years or oil , I know they good for few years , but make me feel it’s old .

Re: Fram Ultra, Napa Platinum, or Baldwin [Re: Scott351W] #5285534 12/05/19 04:12 AM
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None of the above

I'd go with a K&N Pro Gold filter from amazon.

they're usually $8 - $15 depending on vehicle.

I have nothing but good to say about KN. Very well constructed filters. I use/used them on 4 vehicles. Love the construction and wrench off nut.

KN Pro Silver is also amazing for shorter OCIs and less severe use. They go for $4-$10 online, again, depending on the vehicle. I use those if i'm too broke for a gold.

I drive down dirt roads frequently, idle, short trips under 5 miles, rural roads going under 50. I oil change every 4K or so with Royal Purple and a KN filter with good results

If you insist on those 3, then Napa platinum can't be beat for a filter bought from a store and not online! Good stuff. Depending on the vehicle, I actually use Napa Golds (Aunt's SUV, Brothers old minivan that use regular ol Dino and have a 3K OCI)

As to Fram, I'm sure they're OK. But their orange filters kind of spoil my image for the rest.

Baldwin.... I've heard the name, never seen one in person

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