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Re: Drove on asphalt before drying [Re: PandaBear] #5256613 11/02/19 09:10 AM
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Around here it would not be that much.

I've recently had entire asphalt parking lots sealed / striped for less than a kilobuck. .

I'm sure Cali prices, are, um, higher, but still it's really not a very big deal. Or should not be.


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Re: Drove on asphalt before drying [Re: motor_oil_madman] #5256615 11/02/19 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by motor_oil_madman
I dont see how it's legal to completely restrict access. Does the fire marshal know about this? I would contact them, then i assure you wouldn't have to worry about the hoa trying to collect money from you.


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Re: Drove on asphalt before drying [Re: atikovi] #5256641 11/02/19 10:02 AM
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I would just tell them it was an emergency situation to go to the hospital… And that you're not going to sacrifice someone's life because of some pavement.


They're gonna say, if it was a real emergency, you would have called an ambulance.



"I thought about that, but an ambulance would have made 2 sets of tracks with dual rear wheels. Plus it is a x minute response time and where we were going was less than that."


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Re: Drove on asphalt before drying [Re: chemman] #5256650 11/02/19 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by chemman

A fresh asphalt overlaying would have resulted in depressions in the asphalt. Happened to a friend of mine who had a new driveway installed. Supposed to let it sit for 3 days or so, but the very next day a UPS truck drove onto the freshly laid asphalt and now he has a permanent reminder.


The crew should have packed it down tighter before they loaded up and left with all the equipment and their money.


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Re: Drove on asphalt before drying [Re: PandaBear] #5256725 11/02/19 12:14 PM
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Was this the OP's property or FIL's? If FIL's let him fight it out. If OP's you're on the hook.

The weekly HOA bash. They live there, they read the rules and agreed to them, all of them. No profit telling the HOA to stuff it. Sounds like warning was given, when someone does something wrong they need to own it and make it right. Sue them for an ER visit, really?



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Re: Drove on asphalt before drying [Re: PimTac] #5256728 11/02/19 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by PimTac
In every sealing job I’ve seen, you have to clear the driveway. Why was the car on the driveway in the first place? Were they going to seal around it?


Something doesn’t make sense here.


It is a condo / townhouse complex and the common driveway. My FIL didn't move the car outside prior to the sealing and therefore just bust his way out even when the crew tell him not to. Yup, old stubborn people. Emergency or not, my FIL should have at least tell the crew and help walk my MIL out to haul an uber or something. I don't think they really visited a hospital, my MIL was just nausea because of the fume. Anyways, damage is done and HOA won't pay for it, and my FIL said he will "make it right" but he wants to just do it himself (knowing his personality of low quality and big attitude, even I would say no to that).

I double check the letter and it is a sealing instead of an asphalt job. They said we will be on the hook for a "repair", "power wash", and "coating" but they didn't say how much. They want us to contact the company or may face a "fine". I'm sure it will cost money despite any emergency, just try to make sure they are not gouging on the situation. So, how much in a commercial job like this?

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Re: Drove on asphalt before drying [Re: PandaBear] #5256735 11/02/19 12:27 PM
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I love the mentality of its a HOA, they can take it...

If you drove on one of my employers roads and damaged it before it was done, you (or your insurance company more precisely) is responsible for cost of the repairs. You also get a nice ticket (which is not in the HOA's purview).

The residents were noticed it was happening. If there was a fire or emergency service call, this would be an inconvenience only. Nothing more dangerous than that. Happens all the time in construction.

HOA should recoup their costs which at this point nobody knows... Just a lot of wasted breath and hand gesturing. Without local knowledge, or any details of how long, far etc... nobody on this board can give you a reasonable number, period.

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Re: Drove on asphalt before drying [Re: JLTD] #5256737 11/02/19 12:30 PM
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I would just tell them it was an emergency situation to go to the hospital… And that you're not going to sacrifice someone's life because of some pavement.


They're gonna say, if it was a real emergency, you would have called an ambulance.



"I thought about that, but an ambulance would have made 2 sets of tracks with dual rear wheels. Plus it is a x minute response time and where we were going was less than that."


They would have parked 100 feet away and took her away with a stretcher on the sidewalk. Or if her vitals were ok, probably told her to take some Pepto and lie down on the couch for an hour.

Re: Drove on asphalt before drying [Re: Win] #5256746 11/02/19 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Win
Around here it would not be that much.

I've recently had entire asphalt parking lots sealed / striped for less than a kilobuck. .

I'm sure Cali prices, are, um, higher, but still it's really not a very big deal. Or should not be.


It is the "minimum spending before we will send out a crew" that scares me. A lot of jobbers won't come unless it is a couple K worth of work. Let's hope we can find either someone willing to do it in desperation or for a quick one piggy backing another job nearby.


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Re: Drove on asphalt before drying [Re: Eddie] #5256764 11/02/19 01:10 PM
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Father in law pays to get the repair redone professionally--no question in my mind. ed


Yep, the rules are the rules if they thought they might have need to leave in a vehicle it should have been parked on the street temporarily.

FIL needs take personal responsibility.

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Your in-laws sound like a piece of work and they have no leg to stand on. He's going to pay for it and let him pay for it. Do it himself? Yeah, sure LOL. Should have thought about having to use his car before parking it in despite being given advance notice.


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Re: Drove on asphalt before drying [Re: PandaBear] #5256842 11/02/19 02:56 PM
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Let him try his hack at fixing it. Maybe it will work....

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Let him try his hack at fixing it. Maybe it will work....


The HOA won't allow that, and why should they? Advanced notice was given and they ignored it anyway. The FIL needs to pay up and face the music.

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Let him try his hack at fixing it. Maybe it will work....


The HOA won't allow that, and why should they? Advanced notice was given and they ignored it anyway. The FIL needs to pay up and face the music.


In case they let him.


Re: Drove on asphalt before drying [Re: PandaBear] #5257282 11/03/19 04:37 AM
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Something bought at a big box store likely won’t be the same quality as what was professionally installed.

Assuming there’s no obvious mismatch, it’s going to have to hold up as long as the original stuff too.

I can’t see them settling for this.


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