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Ford 3.5 Ecoboost disaster! #5255438 10/31/19 08:27 PM
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Guy was at the shop when I rolled up a little after 7a. 2013 f150 with the 3.5 ecoboost. His water pump was leaking.

Guy is stuck at the shop till it's done. Book time is 3.1 hrs. Had the dealer bring out a new pump, thermostat and belt since I would be removing those to get to the pump.

The engine has these long plastic tubes for the air from the turbos. They need to be removed to get to the pump. Of course the clamps to remove them are facing the wrong way and I can't get to them. Spent 4 hrs just on those clamps!

Finally got the clamps off. There is no way to pull those plastic tubes off the turbos. I pulled,pried,cussed and yanked with all of my 215 lbs. They are stuck!

Had to work around them. Finally got the pump off and there is a coolant pipe that goes between the heads that pulled out with the pump. It has o-rings that seal it. Called the dealer. He has no clue what I'm looking for. Called the next closest dealer... Not in stock and won't be here till Saturday!

Called the other places. Nope,no listing,nobody has anything in stock that's near that size. Greased the old ones up and slid the pipe back in.

Customer is getting concerned as it's now about 2p. He has been there since 7 for a 3 hr job. Tore my arms up from my shoulders down on sharp objects on those tubes that I can't get out of the way. I'm bleeding all over the trucks front.

Truck was done @4:55p. This job really tried my patience. A simple water pump job should not take this long or be this difficult. Definitely not a job someone is going to do in a parts store parking lot.

Going to add the Ecoboost to the list of garbage we won't work on.


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Re: Ford 3.5 Ecoboost disaster! [Re: Chris142] #5255445 10/31/19 08:33 PM
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be thankfull it wasn't in an edge.


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Re: Ford 3.5 Ecoboost disaster! [Re: Chris142] #5255447 10/31/19 08:34 PM
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My formerly owned 2012 Mazda CX-9 with the 3.5 (non turbo) apparently has to have the engine lifted up a bit to get to the water pump. Sounds like a nightmare to work on.

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Re: Ford 3.5 Ecoboost disaster! [Re: Chris142] #5255450 10/31/19 08:40 PM
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Yep … took a beating trading in our $50k 2015 Explorer when I realized it would not grow old gracefully … decided to get something where there is room for an arm and a wrench or two …

Keep those wounds clean …

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Originally Posted by mbacfp
My 2012 Mazda CX-9 with the 3.5 (non turbo) apparently has to have the engine lifted up a bit to get to the water pump. Sounds like a nightmare to work on.

yep, it's down inside the valley, driven by the timing chain.. and it's a "while you're in here" job with the oil pump, and timing chain. and since the drive belts need to come off, might as well do those too..



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Re: Ford 3.5 Ecoboost disaster! [Re: Chris142] #5255454 10/31/19 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris142
Going to add the Ecoboost to the list of garbage we won't work on.

Gotta love those turbo engine setups.
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In all honesty, this is only becoming more prevalent.
Until full electric/hybrid becomes the norm, I don't see things improving anytime soon.


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Re: Ford 3.5 Ecoboost disaster! [Re: mbacfp] #5255459 10/31/19 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by mbacfp
My formerly owned 2012 Mazda CX-9 with the 3.5 (non turbo) apparently has to have the engine lifted up a bit to get to the water pump. Sounds like a nightmare to work on.

If you catch thd coolant leak in time. If you don't, coolant mixes with the oil and takes out the engine.


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Re: Ford 3.5 Ecoboost disaster! [Re: Chris142] #5255462 10/31/19 08:50 PM
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OP, what a crappy day! Tough way to make a living.

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Re: Ford 3.5 Ecoboost disaster! [Re: Chris142] #5255476 10/31/19 09:02 PM
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I just remove the Throttle Body to CAC Tube, The Air Filter Housing Tube, & Drop the Lower Turbo to CAC Tube off the CAC side only......And work around the rest.

Is it a PITA?......Kinda! But you will be faster next time & make way better time!

I never replace those O-rings.....A thin coat of Hylomar M will prevent any seepage!


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Re: Ford 3.5 Ecoboost disaster! [Re: Chris142] #5255496 10/31/19 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris142
The engine has these long plastic tubes for the air from the turbos. They need to be removed to get to the pump. Of course the clamps to remove them are facing the wrong way and I can't get to them. Spent 4 hrs just on those clamps!


Were they the constant tension band clamps? Did you need some remote cable operated hose clamp pliers?

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Originally Posted by perfect_oil
Originally Posted by Chris142
The engine has these long plastic tubes for the air from the turbos. They need to be removed to get to the pump. Of course the clamps to remove them are facing the wrong way and I can't get to them. Spent 4 hrs just on those clamps!


Were they the constant tension band clamps? Did you need some remote cable operated hose clamp pliers?

No regular worm clamps. Facing the wrong way and no room at all to get them loose.


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The engine has these long plastic tubes for the air from the turbos. They need to be removed to get to the pump. Of course the clamps to remove them are facing the wrong way and I can't get to them. Spent 4 hrs just on those clamps!


Were they the constant tension band clamps? Did you need some remote cable operated hose clamp pliers?

No regular worm clamps. Facing the wrong way and no room at all to get them loose.


In situations like that with worm clamps, I can usually get to them with 1/4'' drive swivel sockets from a long ways away with long extensions. But they've got to be the Snappy brand for their ability to turn at high angles.

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Originally Posted by perfect_oil
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The engine has these long plastic tubes for the air from the turbos. They need to be removed to get to the pump. Of course the clamps to remove them are facing the wrong way and I can't get to them. Spent 4 hrs just on those clamps!


Were they the constant tension band clamps? Did you need some remote cable operated hose clamp pliers?

No regular worm clamps. Facing the wrong way and no room at all to get them loose.


In situations like that with worm clamps, I can usually get to them with 1/4'' drive swivel sockets from a long ways away with long extensions. But they've got to be the Snappy brand for their ability to turn at high angles.

They were facing the engine/ turbo/ whatever with the part you screw right up against it. No way to get a socket of any kind on there.


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Originally Posted by mbacfp
My formerly owned 2012 Mazda CX-9 with the 3.5 (non turbo) apparently has to have the engine lifted up a bit to get to the water pump. Sounds like a nightmare to work on.


Sounds like engineered in no DIY.


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Originally Posted by Chris142
They were facing the engine/ turbo/ whatever with the part you screw right up against it. No way to get a socket of any kind on there.


How did you eventually get them off? Did you have to cut through the bands?

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