How Does Toyota Do It?

[lovcom]

Originally Posted by edyvw
Originally Posted by jeepman3071
Originally Posted by lovcom
Originally Posted by Skippy722
Toyota: the Apple of vehicles. Innovative? Nope. Exciting? Not really. Proven, dead nuts reliability that just works? You bet.


It seems you've not driven a Toyota in in a while?

The Prius now has 4-wheel independent suspension and disc brakes all around. Its new revised chassis is rigged as many sportscars. It is not a fast car, but no one can say it does not handle well, or is boring.

You do have to appreciate the fact that many Toyota owners live in some parallel universe.


Yea, its called the Real World. Come join us...

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted by pandus13
Originally Posted by OVERKILL
Originally Posted by lovcom
Originally Posted by Skippy722
Toyota: the Apple of vehicles. Innovative? Nope. Exciting? Not really. Proven, dead nuts reliability that just works? You bet.


It seems you've not driven a Toyota in in a while?

The Prius now has 4-wheel independent suspension and disc brakes all around. Its new revised chassis is rigged as many sportscars. It is not a fast car, but no one can say it does not handle well, or is boring.


Oh, it's boring. The Ford Escort had 4-wheel independent suspension and disc brakes all around, in 1991. Are we setting the bar that low? The Prius is not designed to be inspiring, it's a toaster, and fulfills that role quite well.

Oh OVERKILL, come on!!!

Now you have to post (AGAIN) that link with the HEMI powered Prius ....

You mean this one?

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted by lovcom
No, but I read books and whitepapers written by scientists. Where do you get your data? Fox News? Hybrid batteries are RECYCLABLE. Putting one's head in the sand, and denying the opinions of 99.9% of scientists is not the answer.


To be fair, we thought we were recycling plastics for the last while and then it was discovered most of them were ending up in the ocean. Turns out shipping them to China to be "recycled" wasn't what it was claimed to be. Wind turbine blades are currently being buried in landfills and solar panels are ending up there too. Despite many things having the ability to be recycled, that doesn't necessarily correlate with it actually taking place.

Another example, more up my alley: We are able to reprocess and recycle SNF (Spent Nuclear Fuel). Yet the USA has a law against doing just that. So while France reprocesses and recycles it from all over Europe and even Japan, the US simply stockpiles it

Fossil fuel consumption is still on the rise globally and many, perhaps most, are unaware that this is not being mitigated by the push for wind and solar, which, at the present time, are being matched with new gas capacity to back them up. So, if you are replacing coal, you'll see a reduction (not elimination) in emissions, but if you go from existing extremely efficient combined cycle gas plants to renewables backed by far less efficient peaker-style fast acting ones with a much poorer emissions profile, your progress may actually be in the other direction, depending on the level of intermittency and thus the amount of firming needed.

 

[edyvw]

Originally Posted by lovcom




Yea, its called the Real World. Come join us...

I did, I own Toyota. It is absolute POS.

 

[Skippy722]

Originally Posted by edyvw
Originally Posted by lovcom




Yea, its called the Real World. Come join us...

I did, I own Toyota. It is absolute POS.


Too Often Yankees Overvalue These Autos

 

[Jarlaxle]

Originally Posted by spasm3
Originally Posted by lovcom
Originally Posted by Skippy722
Toyota: the Apple of vehicles. Innovative? Nope. Exciting? Not really. Proven, dead nuts reliability that just works? You bet.


It seems you've not driven a Toyota in in a while?

The Prius now has 4-wheel independent suspension and disc brakes all around. Its new revised chassis is rigged as many sportscars. It is not a fast car, but no one can say it does not handle well, or is boring.



I don't know what year model it was. But i got a prius as a rental car a year or so ago in florida. Horrible driving car. Bad visibility, road noise, very poor ride. It was very annoying. I'll not accept another as a rental. I'll go bigger if i have to.


Noisy, harsh-riding, poor-handling penalty box with bizarre ergonomics and styling. Yeah, that sounds like my mother's Prius.

 

[super20dan]

Originally Posted by PimTac
Originally Posted by Fawteen
Originally Posted by super20dan
what kind of fool buys an equinox after the well documented problems . ?


What kind of idiot can't do better than "lawn service" as an occupation?





Profile much? I know someone who started a lawn service in his teens. He is worth millions now.

here in florida lawnservice is big biz. my house and 5 of my 6 vehicles are paid for and I work 3 hrs a day. sound like a good occupation to me. and yes I own the biz-for 31 years. I own 4 Toyotas.

 

[pandus13]

Originally Posted by OVERKILL
Originally Posted by pandus13

Oh OVERKILL, come on!!!

Now you have to post (AGAIN) that link with the HEMI powered Prius ....

You mean this one?

[off-topic]
Thank you!

I followed the links and got the Jay Leno's garage episode also.
Wow, $100k sink in a street buy-gas-at-the-pump car...
Beautiful!.

The only thing similar I remember was a Ford Focus Wagon body built around a custom crate Cobra engine.

[back-to-topic]
I would dig a Prius v (the wagon) AWD with back sliding doors (mini-minivan) and not the 1.8 engine.
One can only dream...

 

[Toros]

You swung and missed with your argument. You support it by stating that you read... likely the NYT and Washington Post.
Enjoy your Prius.
I'll enjoy my Lexus.

 

[nthach]

Originally Posted by pandus13

I would dig a Prius v (the wagon) AWD with back sliding doors (mini-minivan) and not the 1.8 engine.
One can only dream...

Toyota offers something close - the New Japan Taxi is a weird LPG-powered love child of a Prius and Transit Connect/NV200. It uses a LPG-fueled version of the 1NZ-FXE and the Prius drivetrain. No AWD but it has sliding doors and a wheelchair ramp.

https://global.toyota/en/jpntaxi/

 

[javacontour]

I do the same by buying 5-10 year old econoboxes with 60-100k on them and taking them to 200-250k miles.

I make money on my reimbursements. Since depreciation is the biggest cost in a vehicle, making money on mileage reimbursement says more to either how long the vehicle is kept or a low purchase price. It's hard to do so based on fuel economy. Unless he bought a $2000 truck, which is doubtful, the loss on the truck is probably due to an MSRP close to 2x the Prius.

Nothing against the Prius, as we had a Fusion hybrid as a rental last year and enjoyed 40mpg.

But I get 30mpg with my 7 year old Mazda 3 I bought for $10k two years ago. I can buy a lot of fuel with the $20k I save on purchase price vs a new car, hybrid or otherwise.

Originally Posted by jeepman3071



I wouldn't own a Prius just because I find them boring to drive, but I don't think everyone who drives one is a treehugging looney. Just like not every pickup truck driver is a raging redneck. Obviously there are plenty of people who fit both of those stereotypes. A coworker drives a Prius as his daily driver. He owns several vehicles, but he says the Prius has paid for itself. My company pays mileage for travel to different sites, and as a network engineer he travels all over New England. With the Prius he actually makes money off his mileage reimbursements. With his truck he barely breaks even.

 

[lovcom]

Originally Posted by Jarlaxle
Originally Posted by spasm3
Originally Posted by lovcom
Originally Posted by Skippy722
Toyota: the Apple of vehicles. Innovative? Nope. Exciting? Not really. Proven, dead nuts reliability that just works? You bet.


It seems you've not driven a Toyota in in a while?

The Prius now has 4-wheel independent suspension and disc brakes all around. Its new revised chassis is rigged as many sportscars. It is not a fast car, but no one can say it does not handle well, or is boring.



I don't know what year model it was. But i got a prius as a rental car a year or so ago in florida. Horrible driving car. Bad visibility, road noise, very poor ride. It was very annoying. I'll not accept another as a rental. I'll go bigger if i have to.


Noisy, harsh-riding, poor-handling penalty box with bizarre ergonomics and styling. Yeah, that sounds like my mother's Prius.


You are either lying, or you are describing the gen 1 Prius. My 2019 Prius is very quiet, smooth as silk at 80 MPH, and this car has no reputation for burning oil, even at 100K + miles.

 

[lovcom]

Originally Posted by edyvw
Originally Posted by lovcom




Yea, its called the Real World. Come join us...

I did, I own Toyota. It is absolute POS.

So if a car gets routinely 60+ MPG city, is the most dependable car in history, and has a better ride than most conventional cars in its size, has blind spot indicator, adaptive cruise, parallel parks its self, its a POS? I think you are the POS. You must be...you drive MOPAR products...the LEAST dependable cars sold in America (after the Mini Cooper).

 

[lovcom]

Originally Posted by Jarlaxle
Originally Posted by spasm3
Originally Posted by lovcom
Originally Posted by Skippy722
Toyota: the Apple of vehicles. Innovative? Nope. Exciting? Not really. Proven, dead nuts reliability that just works? You bet.


It seems you've not driven a Toyota in in a while?

The Prius now has 4-wheel independent suspension and disc brakes all around. Its new revised chassis is rigged as many sportscars. It is not a fast car, but no one can say it does not handle well, or is boring.



I don't know what year model it was. But i got a prius as a rental car a year or so ago in florida. Horrible driving car. Bad visibility, road noise, very poor ride. It was very annoying. I'll not accept another as a rental. I'll go bigger if i have to.


Noisy, harsh-riding, poor-handling penalty box with bizarre ergonomics and styling. Yeah, that sounds like my mother's Prius.


You are either describing Gen 1 Prius or you are lying. You should listen to your mother more...she is smarter than you!

 

[supton]

Man, I hate calling out Toyota fanboys... especially since I'm one of them.

Spotted this yesterday on a coworker's Prius:

 

[Skippy722]

Originally Posted by lovcom

So if a car gets routinely 60+ MPG city, is the most dependable car in history, and has a better ride than most conventional cars in its size, has blind spot indicator, adaptive cruise, parallel parks its self, its a POS? I think you are the POS. You must be...you drive MOPAR products...the LEAST dependable cars sold in America (after the Mini Cooper).


*still patiently waiting for both mopar products to blow up*

Oh... it's not nice to call people a POS, no matter how much they insult "your precious brand."

 

[edyvw]

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You are either describing Gen 1 Prius or you are lying. You should listen to your mother more...she is smarter than you!

I was driven in one that was Taxi in DC this March. I am not fallowing developments of microwaves, but it was like I was being driven in wheel barrel.

 

[nthach]

Originally Posted by lovcom
You must be...you drive MOPAR products...the LEAST dependable cars sold in America (after the Mini Cooper).

As much as I'm a semi-loyalist of Toyota, I think Mopar's reputation isn't as bad as many make it to be. I do see more older Mopar product on the roads still compared to Ford or GM.

 

[MCompact]

Originally Posted by Skippy722


*still patiently waiting for both mopar products to blow up*

Oh... it's not nice to call people a POS, no matter how much they insult "your precious brand."


I guess I'm also cheating fate with my Clubman and Wrangler. Maybe someday I can "move up" to a soul-crushing appliance.

 

[Skippy722]

Originally Posted by MCompact
Originally Posted by Skippy722


*still patiently waiting for both mopar products to blow up*

Oh... it's not nice to call people a POS, no matter how much they insult "your precious brand."


I guess I'm also cheating fate with my Clubman and Wrangler. Maybe someday I can "move up" to a soul-crushing appliance.


"One of us! One of us! One of us!"